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To: Zemo
Since when did Marines become police? Rules of Engagement in Iraq

Rules to Live...and Die...By

By Col. DAN SMITH

http://www.counterpunch.org/smith12082004.html Some ROE are included in unit "standing operational orders" (SOP) and form the basic structure from which adjustments are made to develop operational-specific ROE issued to forces just prior to the start of an operation. For example, the following replicates a pre-September 11, 2001 set of standing ROE for Joint Task Force 6, the multi-service command at Fort Bliss, Texas that is the Defense Department's interface with counter-drug U.S. law enforcement agencies.

Personnel WILL make every effort to avoid confrontation or armed conflict with civilians.

Personnel MAY:

Use only the amount of force necessary and proportional to the threat; Use deadly force in self-defense and in defending others from death or serious bodily injury;
Detain any person posing an imminent threat of death or serious bodily harm, releasing them to civilian LEA [law enforcement agents] as soon as possible;
Pursue armed persons only to defend or retrieve personnel;
Pursue unarmed forces to retrieve military equipment.

Personnel MAY NOT:

Use deadly force to protect property;
Use deadly force if other measures would be reasonably effective;
Participate in arrests, searches, seizures, or interrogations;
Trespass on private property. These ROE provide for the use of deadly force to counter deadly force as an absolute right.
They do not sanction deadly force to accomplish a mission.
The use of force for the latter purpose is conditional on the grounds of necessity (a hostile act is imminent or has occurred) and proportionality (reasonable in intensity, duration, and magnitude). For example, destroying the house and livelihood of relatives of insurgent suicide car bombers is neither necessary nor proportional; it is vindictive.

104 posted on 12/21/2006 12:36:28 PM PST by radar101 (LIBERALS = Hypocrisy and Fantasy)
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To: radar101

"Die by" indeed when it is impossible to determine just who "civilians" are.

Disastrously constraining ROE's.


106 posted on 12/21/2006 12:39:00 PM PST by EyeGuy
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