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The Real Inconvenient Truth About Global Warming: Skeptics Have Valid Arguments
Capitalism Magazine ^ | December 19, 2006 | Tom DeWeese

Posted on 12/20/2006 7:46:46 PM PST by ancient_geezer

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To: Taxman

As does, come to think on it, Floriduh, re: their Howdy Doody Senator expert on Syrian/US relations!

Seen this one on Florida?

Jeb Bush Draft Paper Sets Stage For Carbon Battles In Key State


21 posted on 12/20/2006 9:20:57 PM PST by ancient_geezer (Don't reform it, Replace it.)
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To: Taxman

WONDER IF THE TWO BOZOS EVER WERE ASKED ABOUT THE LETTER?


22 posted on 12/20/2006 9:21:36 PM PST by neverhillorat (IF THE RATS WIN, WE ALL LOSE)
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To: neverhillorat; Taxman

WONDER IF THE TWO BOZOS EVER WERE ASKED ABOUT THE LETTER?

Someone noticed ;OP

British Lord Stings Senators Rockefeller and Snowe: 'Uphold Free Speech or Resign'

Note it didn't come from the milksops on this side of the Atlantic.

23 posted on 12/20/2006 9:30:17 PM PST by ancient_geezer (Don't reform it, Replace it.)
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To: ancient_geezer

chk later


24 posted on 12/20/2006 9:30:57 PM PST by WildBill2275 (The Second Amendment guarantees all of your other rights)
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To: mwilli20

Do a google on "Report from Iron Mountain". It's interesting in the name of one of the major players in this program from the 1960s - Rockefeller.


26 posted on 12/20/2006 9:37:35 PM PST by tang-soo (Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
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To: ancient_geezer

You forgot Z - Zits increase


27 posted on 12/20/2006 9:46:57 PM PST by timer (n/0=n=nx0)
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To: timer

You forgot Z - Zits increase

That's under A for Anxiety, you know the kind caused by contracting global warming induced acne ;OP

28 posted on 12/20/2006 9:55:53 PM PST by ancient_geezer (Don't reform it, Replace it.)
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To: tang-soo
Do a google on "Report from Iron Mountain". It's interesting in the name of one of the major players in this program from the 1960s - Rockefeller.

Huh? I can't find a connection between the Report you mention and Global Warming, or between Rockefeller and either one of them... I'm afraid you lost me here...

29 posted on 12/20/2006 10:04:54 PM PST by mwilli20
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To: ancient_geezer

Or maybe Zits as in Skin Cancer. Zoos lose, or Zerbas go Zany, or global warming Zeit-geist, or zero zeal to develop alternate, non-CO2 energy, or zapped zinnias...any more zzzsss?


30 posted on 12/20/2006 10:10:05 PM PST by timer (n/0=n=nx0)
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To: mwilli20

The "report" was supposed to have been a study conducted by Tri-Lat types who wanted to develope plans for a world government takeover without war. Kinda like a James Bond villian with brains rather than bombs. The idea was to convince world governments to relinquish power due to world-wide catastrophice problems that only a world government and authority could solve. Their list of plans included a perceived alien invasion, radical enviromentalism and world-wide pandemics. I would place the drumbeat of global warming under their enviro catagory. The study was "leaked" and written about by Carrol Quigley (Georgetown prof and Clinton mentor) in his book "Tradegy and Hope".


31 posted on 12/20/2006 10:35:20 PM PST by tang-soo (Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
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To: mwilli20; tang-soo

"A book that shook the White House" -- U.S. News & World Report

Back in print! -- after a long absence from it's being made available to the public, The Report From Iron Mountain, was and is indeed a FACT.


http://hiddenmysteries.com/xcart/product.php?productid=16398


32 posted on 12/20/2006 11:53:05 PM PST by razorback-bert (Posted by Time's Man of the Year)
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To: ancient_geezer
One requirement for any meaningful scientific theory is that it must be possible to conceive of some evidence or event which would prove it false. For example, while it's believed that gravitational forces will attract objects in proportion to their mass, regardless of the materials of which they are constructed, such belief could be disproven if some material were discovered which was not subject to the same gravitational effects as other materials. I would not expect such a material to ever be discovered, but if it were it would disprove many of the currently-accepted laws of gravity.

By contrast, anything that happens is taken as confirmation of "global warming". Mild weather is caused by global warming. So's severe weather. Since no type of weather would disprove global warming, the theory itself is meaningless.

33 posted on 12/21/2006 12:24:34 AM PST by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: kinoxi
Noooh. Not our Al. He's too smart to lie.

"I decided I just had to call because you've printed a picture of the Earth upside down on the front page of the paper,'' Al Gore

In 1998, Gore called The Washington Post's executive editor to tip him off on an ''error'' in the paper.

www.gargaro.com . . .

34 posted on 12/21/2006 12:35:35 AM PST by TeddyCon
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To: mwilli20
It's not a matter of "who" stands to benefit (Although, many do benefit by having their scientific work funded in perpetuity). Global Warning Hysteria is irrational...and humans are prone to holding beliefs that lack any rational basis.

Mankind is clever enough to build computers and go to the moon...yet we can still embrace wrongheaded ideas and superstition. Just look to your average liberal for example.
35 posted on 12/21/2006 1:16:30 AM PST by aligncare (Global Warming: Where science meets politics and where politics trumps science)
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To: Andrewksu

ping


36 posted on 12/21/2006 7:07:02 AM PST by centurion316 (Democrats - Supporting Al Qaida Worldwide)
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To: supercat
Since no type of weather would disprove global warming, the theory itself is meaningless.

Given the current climate state, if a significant global cooling trend were to ensue, absent any detectable changes in major ocean circulation patterns, that would completely counter any current global warming predictions.

37 posted on 12/21/2006 7:39:27 AM PST by cogitator
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To: secretagent
It is important to note that the so-called “Skeptics” include Dr. Daniel Schrag of Harvard; Claude Allegre, one of the most decorated French geophysicists; Dr. Richard Lindzen, professor of Atmospheric Sciences, MIT; Dr. Patrick Michaels, University of Virginia: Dr. Fred Singer; Professor Bob Carter, geologist at James Cook University, Australia; 85 scientists and climate experts who signed the 1995 Leipzeg Declaration which called drastic climate controls “ill-advised, lacking credible support from the underlying science; 17,000 scientists and leaders involved in climate study who signed a petition issued by the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine saying there is no evidence green house gasses cause global warming; and the 4,000 scientists and leaders from around the world, including 70 Nobel Prize winners, who signed the Heidelberg Appeal calling greenhouse global warming theories “highly uncertainly scientific theories.”

Could we find any new names for the skeptic list?

Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine

"n reality, neither Robinson's paper nor OISM's petition drive had anything to do with the National Academy of Sciences, which first heard about the petition when its members began calling to ask if the NAS had taken a stand against the Kyoto treaty. Robinson was not even a climate scientist. He was a biochemist with no published research in the field of climatology, and his paper had never been subjected to peer review by anyone with training in the field. In fact, the paper had never been accepted for publication anywhere, let alone in the NAS Proceedings. It was self-published by Robinson, who did the typesetting himself on his own computer. (It was subsequently published as a "review" in Climate Research, which contributed to an editorial scandal at that publication.)

None of the coauthors of "Environmental Effects of Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide" had any more standing than Robinson himself as a climate change researcher. They included Robinson's 22-year-old son, Zachary, along with astrophysicists Sallie L. Baliunas and Willie Soon. Both Baliunas and Soon worked with Frederick Seitz at the George C. Marshall Institute, a Washington, D.C., think tank where Seitz served as executive director. Funded by a number of right-wing foundations, including Scaife and Bradley, the George C. Marshall Institute does not conduct any original research. It is a conservative think tank that was initially founded during the years of the Reagan administration to advocate funding for Reagan's Strategic Defense Initiative--the "Star Wars" weapons program. Today, the Marshall Institute is still a big fan of high-tech weapons. In 1999, its website gave prominent placement to an essay by Col. Simon P. Worden titled "Why We Need the Air-Borne Laser," along with an essay titled "Missile Defense for Populations--What Does It Take? Why Are We Not Doing It?" Following the collapse of the Soviet Union, however, the Marshall Institute has adapted to the times by devoting much of its firepower to the war against environmentalism, and in particular against the "scaremongers" who raise warnings about global warming.

"The mailing is clearly designed to be deceptive by giving people the impression that the article, which is full of half-truths, is a reprint and has passed peer review," complained Raymond Pierrehumbert, a meteorlogist at the University of Chicago. NAS foreign secretary F. Sherwood Rowland, an atmospheric chemist, said researchers "are wondering if someone is trying to hoodwink them." NAS council member Ralph J. Cicerone, dean of the School of Physical Sciences at the University of California at Irvine, was particularly offended that Seitz described himself in the cover letter as a "past president" of the NAS. Although Seitz had indeed held that title in the 1960s, Cicerone hoped that scientists who received the petition mailing would not be misled into believing that he "still has a role in governing the organization."

The NAS issued an unusually blunt formal response to the petition drive. "The NAS Council would like to make it clear that this petition has nothing to do with the National Academy of Sciences and that the manuscript was not published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences or in any other peer-reviewed journal," it stated in a news release. "The petition does not reflect the conclusions of expert reports of the Academy." In fact, it pointed out, its own prior published study had shown that "even given the considerable uncertainties in our knowledge of the relevant phenomena, greenhouse warming poses a potential threat sufficient to merit prompt responses. Investment in mitigation measures acts as insurance protection against the great uncertainties and the possibility of dramatic surprises."

Notwithstanding this rebuke, the Oregon Petition managed to garner 15,000 signatures within a month's time. S. Fred Singer called the petition "the latest and largest effort by rank-and-file scientists to express their opposition to schemes that subvert science for the sake of a political agenda."

Nebraska senator Chuck Hagel called it an "extraordinary response" and cited it as his basis for continuing to oppose a global warming treaty. "Nearly all of these 15,000 scientists have technical training suitable for evaluating climate research data," Hagel said. Columns citing the Seitz petition and the Robinson paper as credible sources of scientific expertise on the global warming issue have appeared in publications ranging from Newsday', the Los Angeles Times and Washington Post to the Austin-American Statesman, Denver Post, and Wyoming Tribune-Eagle.

In addition to the bulk mailing, OISM's website enables people to add their names to the petition over the Internet, and by June 2000 it claimed to have recruited more than 19,000 scientists. The institute is so lax about screening names, however, that virtually anyone can sign, including for example Al Caruba, a pesticide-industry PR man and conservative ideologue who runs his own website called the "National Anxiety Center." Caruba has no scientific credentials whatsoever, but in addition to signing the Oregon Petition he has editorialized on his own website against the science of global warming, calling it the "biggest hoax of the decade," a "genocidal" campaign by environmentalists who believe that "humanity must be destroyed to 'Save the Earth.' . . . There is no global warming, but there is a global political agenda, comparable to the failed Soviet Union experiment with Communism, being orchestrated by the United Nations, supported by its many Green NGOs, to impose international treaties of every description that would turn the institution into a global government, superceding the sovereignty of every nation in the world."

When questioned in 1998, OISM's Arthur Robinson admitted that only 2,100 signers of the Oregon Petition had identified themselves as physicists, geophysicists, climatologists, or meteorologists, "and of those the greatest number are physicists." This grouping of fields concealed the fact that only a few dozen, at most, of the signatories were drawn from the core disciplines of climate science - such as meteorology, oceanography, and glaciology - and almost none were climate specialists. The names of the signers are available on the OISM's website, but without listing any institutional affiliations or even city of residence, making it very difficult to determine their credentials or even whether they exist at all. When the Oregon Petition first circulated, in fact, environmental activists successfully added the names of several fictional characters and celebrities to the list, including John Grisham, Michael J. Fox, Drs. Frank Burns, B. J. Honeycutt, and Benjamin Pierce (from the TV show M*A*S*H), an individual by the name of "Dr. Red Wine," and Geraldine Halliwell, formerly known as pop singer Ginger Spice of the Spice Girls. Halliwell's field of scientific specialization was listed as "biology." Even in 2003, the list was loaded with misspellings, duplications, name and title fragments, and names of non-persons, such as company names."

Heidelberg Appeal

The Heidelberg Appeal, authored by Michel Salomon and signed by a number of leading scientists, is a statement decrying "an irrational ideology which is opposed to scientific and industrial progress, and impedes economic and social development." Issued to coincide with the opening of the United Nations-sponsored Earth Summit in Rio de Janeiro in 1992, the Appeal stated that its signers "share the objectives of the 'Earth Summit'" but advised "the authorities in charge of our planet's destiny against decisions which are supported by pseudo-scientific arguments or false and non-relevant data. ... The greatest evils which stalk our Earth are ignorance and oppression, and not Science, Technology and Industry."

A version of the Heidelberg Appeal was published in the June 1, 1992 Wall Street Journal over the signatures of 46 prominent scientists and other intellectuals. It has subsequently been endorsed by some 4,000 scientists, including 72 Nobel Prize winners. The Appeal was for an anthropocentric assessment of the world's resources and a utilitarian as opposed to abolitionist approach to hazardous substances used or created by technology. It targeted as irrational, by implication, if not explicitly, both a vision of a "Natural State" with intrinsic rights to impede the activities of man, and hysterical fears of environmental poisons, disproportionate to the threat and dismissive of their associated benefits. Sponsors of the Heidelberg Appeal included the asbestos and tobacco industries. The latter continued sponsorship of the principal proponents of the Appeal, in research directed to discredit concerns over environmental tobacco smoke.

The Heidelberg Appeal has been enthusiastically embraced by critics of the environmental movement such as S. Fred Singer of the Science and Environmental Policy Project. Conservative think tanks frequently cite the Heidelberg Appeal as proof that scientists reject the theory of global warming as well as a host of other environmental health risks associated with modern science and industry. Its name has subsequently been adopted by the Heidelberg Appeal Nederland Foundation, which was founded in 1993 and disputes health risks related to nitrates in foods and antibiotic-resistant bacteria. However, the Heidelberg Appeal itself makes no explicit reference to global warming, although the paragraph,

We draw everybody's attention to the absolute necessity of helping poor countries attain a level of sustainable development which matches that of the rest of the planet, protecting them from troubles and dangers stemming from developed nations, and avoiding their entanglement in a web of unrealistic obligations which would compromise both their independence and their dignity.

is clearly intended to hint at the problem of climate change and international environmental agreements such as the Kyoto Protocol. Neither for that matter does it specifically mention pesticides or antibiotic-resistant bacteria.

Ultimately, why should anyone take an op-ed piece seriously if it cannot accurately quote from a source that is readily available on the Internet and found easily by Google search?

38 posted on 12/21/2006 7:52:54 AM PST by cogitator
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To: DaveLoneRanger

See post 39, especially my comment at the end.


40 posted on 12/21/2006 7:54:20 AM PST by cogitator
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