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To: dr_who_2

"Some battles aren't worth fighting. As for Christianity, ask yourself whether the depth of your faith should be measured by the number of "creches" you place in the public square."

Battles like these are extremely important, because it is the Left that wishes to alter our culture into one that is Godless and devoid of Christianity. Creches aren't about the depth of faith. They are a celebration of the birth of the central figure of it. Celebrating and worshiping are expressly protected by the Constitution. I believe that the presence of a creche reminds us of the freedoms we are given.

I'd like to see everyone put up a creche and a menorah this year, regardless of your religion, for two reasons. 1) Jesus was a important figure, whether you believe in his divinity or not, who taught wisdom for the ages, and 2) to show solidarity in the fight against those who would suppress the freedom to worship.


166 posted on 12/20/2006 9:11:10 PM PST by oneamericanvoice (Shame on those who disparage the displays of religious icons.)
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To: oneamericanvoice
Battles like these are extremely important, because it is the Left that wishes to alter our culture into one that is Godless and devoid of Christianity.

Going by what you're saying here, "the Left" just sounds to me like a convenient straw man.

BTW, I doubt you'll find any mention of Christmas trees in the bible ...or creche's in the sermon on the mount. Look up what Jesus had to say about praying and carefully count the number of paragraphs in the Lord's Prayer. Christianity isn't that difficult to understand, but there seem to be so many versions of it floating around, selective readings of passages, and endless controversies over what others would consider to be technicalities. But the worst is when there is no honest debate at all.

I'd like to see everyone put up a creche and a menorah this year, regardless of your religion, for two reasons. 1) Jesus was a important figure, whether you believe in his divinity or not, who taught wisdom for the ages,

Well, in the interest of solidarity with Detroit-area muslims, we should also recognise the importance of Mohammed-oops-peace be upon him!-so I guess we should all observe the fast come Ramadan, right? Wrong. I have few bones to pick with the man, and there are fewer hours in a day than there are religions. The constitution gives me the right to speak my mind, and I value that, too.

and 2) to show solidarity in the fight against those who would suppress the freedom to worship.

Sincerity is a prerequisite for solidarity. It's hard to be sincere about doing something that is imposed upon you. If you want to put a creche or a menorah up in your front yard, maybe I'll come by and admire it, but no one tells me to put up anything for anybody, whether in the interests of "solidarity" or whatever other agenda you might have in mind. And no, the constitution doesn't give you the right to impose your religious practices on me or anyone else. Lights, wreaths, poinsettias, and ribbons are just great for Christmas, but people have had just as much to celebrate when few of those things were available. And seeing a big menorah on some street corner every day on my way to work doesn't mean anyone is infringing on my rights.
170 posted on 12/20/2006 11:36:12 PM PST by dr_who_2
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