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The Mortgage Bust Goes On
Forbes ^ | December 19, 2006 | Matthew Swibel

Posted on 12/20/2006 8:07:27 AM PST by GodGunsGuts

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1 posted on 12/20/2006 8:07:29 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Would more than 9 out of 10 be 10?


2 posted on 12/20/2006 8:08:41 AM PST by giznort
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To: ex-Texan; Pelham; djf; winodog; RobRoy; finnman69; remember; expat_panama; Paleo Conservative; ...

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3 posted on 12/20/2006 8:09:06 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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The deterioration of homeowners' ability to keep up with mortgage payments will add oomph to calls on Capitol Hill for new regulation of mortgage lenders and brokers. "There is considerable discussion by incoming House Finance Committee Chairman Barney Frank [D-Mass.] to enact a predatory lending law for these mortgage lending problems," says Keith Ernst, senior policy counsel for the Center for Responsible Lending.

Ahhhh yes.. get the government involved to save us from ourselves...
4 posted on 12/20/2006 8:10:11 AM PST by fhlh (Liberal (noun): A person so open minded, their brains have fallen out of their head.)
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To: giznort

Hey, my comment got posted to the wrong article. I was in the article about the premarital sex survey. Sorry.


5 posted on 12/20/2006 8:10:20 AM PST by giznort
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To: GodGunsGuts
Here comes the pinch: To manage household debt, Americans have used such moves to pull over $2 trillion out of their homes in the past five years.

And during that past 5 years, Homes have appreciated over $10 Trillion, so homeowners have only tapped into 20% of their appreciated equity.

6 posted on 12/20/2006 8:12:19 AM PST by Always Right
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To: GodGunsGuts

The folks in my town are still hoping against hope--putting their houses on the market for 2x-3x what they're worth and hoping the Kalifornians will show up to pounce on an "investment property". This charade has been going on for over a year now.


7 posted on 12/20/2006 8:13:15 AM PST by randog (What the...?!)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Risky mortgages drove the prices of housing up by allowing people to qualify for houses they couldn't afford..now they will drive them down and everyone is going to suffer.
No money down..low starting interest..no allowance for taxes etc.
These were all bad practices that must come to an end.
10% down minimum..plus escrow accounts for taxes and no promotional rates or negative amortization. That would trim house prices and make them a lot more affordable and encourage saving for down payment.


8 posted on 12/20/2006 8:13:54 AM PST by Oldexpat
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To: giznort

Must be a freudian slip, as you were reading of subprime borrowers screwing [themselves].


9 posted on 12/20/2006 8:17:16 AM PST by GSlob
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To: GodGunsGuts

When you hear the same thing from lots of sources, more often than not it's true. One thing I heard from lots of people early on is: Never, ever borrow against your home, or roll debt into a mortgage unless it's your last option.

People want everything now. Kids who are 25 want a home bigger, newer and nice than mom and dad's house. The concept of a starter home is lost on most people now.

So, they make a deal with the devil. (Not literally, but in terms of shaky financial activity). Well, the bill is coming due.


10 posted on 12/20/2006 8:18:16 AM PST by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: Oldexpat

Historically lenders will screw the consumer if left unsupervised by government. The Bible even acknowledges that the lender will be used to enslave you. (Check out Proverbs).


11 posted on 12/20/2006 8:18:21 AM PST by Fee
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To: GodGunsGuts
Here we go...the set up serve for Democrats to come in and overhaul the mortgage lending industry under the guise of helping the poor, down-trodden and helpless consumer who is preyed upon. Of course, Barney Frank and Dodd's "fix" will result in higher mortgage rates for everybody else and a severe tightening of access to credit. This of course will choke the economy and bring it to its knees.

Chris Dodd and Barney Frank, their from the government and they intend to "help".
12 posted on 12/20/2006 8:18:25 AM PST by Obadiah
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To: GodGunsGuts

You're enjoying this, aren't you?


13 posted on 12/20/2006 8:19:10 AM PST by Fairview
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To: giznort

More than 9 out of 10 grandparents having premarital sex were also subprime borrowers! I know it 'cause I read it in a study.
/s


14 posted on 12/20/2006 8:19:12 AM PST by GnuHere
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To: fhlh

Well, if one wants to be charitable, they can say it was loose lending policies that led up to this.

The lending that happened amounted to a kind of bidding war between the institutions. A house worth 100K in a certain market suddenly zoomed to 200K in short order. And there was nothing to justify the increase save what the institutions were willing to lend on it.

So now because of these policies, literally millions of people face foreclosure and possible bankruptcy. Years of destroyed credit.

And the lenders sit back, after having the sheriff toss the schmucks stuff on the sidewalk, and say "Don't blame us!" "They knew all about it!" "It's not our fault!!"

And you know what? Some of the lenders might take serious financial hits because of it. And before you can say "cheese", the gummint will be in there filling up there back pockets like the S&L debacle.

Meanwhile, the schmuck is sitting in a Barcalounger on the sidewalk, with basically a negative credit rating now, without a pot to whiz in.

And the bankers and Wall Streeters will still be eating lobster and flying first class.


15 posted on 12/20/2006 8:21:40 AM PST by djf (They have their place. We have our place. WAKE UP!! They want to turn our place into their place!!!)
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To: Fairview

No, I'm not. Now, if you are wondering if "I told you so" occasionally pops up from my subconscious re: the fatal optimists who tried to argue that housing fundamentals were just fine, the answer is yes. Now that the housing decline is on everyone's radar screen, it's time to start finding articles that point to the least painful way out of this mess (or even how to profit from it).


16 posted on 12/20/2006 8:25:11 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: Oldexpat

the ponzie scheme was just this:

1. buy maximum house on mimimum payments and no money down
2. wait 2 years for appreciation or flip to a new buyer
3. move up to bigger house with mimimum payments and no money down

All of this is dependent on home price appreciation and a steady flow of buyers. Now that sub-prime lenders are tightening standards, and there are fewer buyers who can not really 'afford' the entry costs with even the riskiest most toxic loans, the conveyer belt is jammed and support for these prices is disappearing.


17 posted on 12/20/2006 8:28:02 AM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: brownsfan

You mean taking a out a 30 year loan on a trip to Hawaii and a car that may last 7 years is a bad idea?


18 posted on 12/20/2006 8:29:51 AM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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"Well, if one wants to be charitable, they can say it was loose lending policies that led up to this. "

I'd say it was financially uneducated consumers who were impatient to have it all now that caused this. One thing that our school systems lack is financial education. Kids should be taught about the magic that is interest. The power of financial discipline. As a parent, I've tried to give that to my kids.
ARMs are evil for your primary dwelling. Less than 10% down is asking for a financial bloody nose. Paying over 40% of your income for your mortgage is just plan stupid. But people are doing all of that and more. I don't blame the lenders on this one. It's the uneducated consumers. If you don't understand what you're signing up for, you probably shouldn't sign up.


19 posted on 12/20/2006 8:30:01 AM PST by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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Hey Barney and Chris -- how about lowering taxes so people can better afford their housing?!


20 posted on 12/20/2006 8:30:22 AM PST by Uncledave
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