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To: UpAllNight
"I see that your major scientific readings are off the creationist web sites. I never realized before how many of you are out their that believe the sun revolves around the earth till I just googled."

Here is Einstein on a non-creationist web site:

"Is it false that the sun goes around the earth? Albert Einstein and Leopold Infeld say in their The Evolution of Physics 1938, p 212): "Can we formulate physical laws so that they are valid for all CS [coordinate systems], not only those moving uniformly, but also those moving quite arbitrarily, relative to each other? If this can be done, our troubles will be over. We shall then be able to apply the laws of nature to any CS. The struggle, so violent in the early days of science, between the views of Ptolemy and Copernicus would then be quite meaningless. Either CS could be used with equal justification. The two sentences, "the sun is at rest and the earth moves," or "the sun moves and the earth is at rest," would simply mean two different conventions concerning two different CS. Could we build a real relativistic physics valid in all CS; a physics in which there would be no place for absolute, but only for relative motion? This is indeed possible! [general relativity]."

http://www.gfisher.org/chapter_7.htm

Here is the Sir Fred Hoyle quote from a non-creationist site:

"Sir Fred Hoyle wrote: The relation of the two pictures [geocentricity and heliocentricity] is reduced to a mere coordinate transformation and it is the main tenet of the Einstein theory that any two ways of looking at the world which are related to each other by a coordinate transformation are entirely equivalent from a physical point of view ... . Today we cannot say that the Copernican theory is “right” and the Ptolemaic theory “wrong” in any meaningful physical sense."

http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Geocentric_model/id/482586

Are you so simple that you decide what is truth by who posted the quote rather than what the quote said?

261 posted on 12/22/2006 8:26:49 PM PST by GourmetDan
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To: GourmetDan

I did not see where Einstein said a geocentric systems was possible. As for Sir Hoyle, I have already remarked that he was thoroughly discredited.


265 posted on 12/22/2006 8:33:49 PM PST by UpAllNight
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To: All

Wow, what a circus!

Here you got a thread where posters who are known, among other things, for saying fire-breathing dragons are real, the U.S. moon landings were faked, lifesaving cancer surgery is immoral and (believe it or not) that heliocentrism is controversial trying to lecture scientifically knowledgeable people on the validity of a theory (evolution) that has been known to be true for over a century. Unbelievable. Put your Bibles down for a few minutes and get a real education, folks! Science has advanced a bit since the Bronze Age!

No wonder more and more educated conservatives want nothing to do with the ignorantly fanatical crankhole the once-great science threads on this site have become.


310 posted on 12/27/2006 7:07:34 AM PST by Quark2005 (When the inmates are running the asylum, you can get away with saying anything!)
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