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Woman beaten on Jerusalem bus for refusing to move to rear seat
Haaretz.com ^ | Dec 19, 2006 | Daphna Berman

Posted on 12/19/2006 11:35:51 AM PST by Sarah

Woman beaten on Jerusalem bus for refusing to move to rear seat By Daphna Berman A woman who reported a vicious attack by an ad-hoc "modesty patrol" on a Jerusalem bus last month is now lining up support for her case and may be included in a petition to the High Court of Justice over the legality of sex-segregated buses. Miriam Shear says she was traveling to pray at the Western Wall in Jerusalem's Old City early on November 24 when a group of ultra-Orthodox (Haredi) men attacked her for refusing to move to the back of the Egged No. 2 bus. She is now in touch with several legal advocacy and women's organizations, and at the same time, waiting for the police to apprehend her attackers.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: hareidim; israel
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To: MeanWestTexan

I'm glad nothing happened to you or your daughter.

What a bunch of weirdos.


41 posted on 12/19/2006 12:11:44 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Constitutions Grandchild

This is nothing new and not created by anyone but the fanatics.


42 posted on 12/19/2006 12:12:40 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: Dog Gone

It was a Pontius decision.


43 posted on 12/19/2006 12:13:47 PM PST by ichabod1 (After the attacks of 9/11, profiling Muslims is more like profiling the Klan.)
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To: Wormwood

These nuts are about as representative of Jews-at-large as Fred Phelps and his nut churchmembers are representative of Christians.

Americans tend to lump Jews into Reform, Conservative, and Orthodox but there are as many "denominations" among Jews as there are denominations of Christians.


44 posted on 12/19/2006 12:14:29 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: pgkdan

Maybe. None of their writings survive today, so it's pretty much hearsay from the ones who prevailed.


45 posted on 12/19/2006 12:14:50 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Sarah
reating women like chattel is not the same thing as tacitly agreeing to a set-up where both sexes are seated more modestly and both sexes are more comfortable like that. This happens to be a bus-run with a very heavily orthodox clientele. (due to the route)

1. Was segregation an official, posted policy of the bus company?
2. Was this woman a member of the Haredi community?

If the answer to both of those questions is NO, then these men are filthy thugs.

46 posted on 12/19/2006 12:15:04 PM PST by Wormwood (I'm with you in Rockland)
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To: ArrogantBustard

I don't understanding what you are referring to.
Who is 'they', and do you mean TROP as in 'too much?' And if not, WHAT, and if so, 'too much' what?


47 posted on 12/19/2006 12:16:09 PM PST by Sarah
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To: MeanWestTexan

OK, read up to post 12 and got a chuckle.

I take your post, as a whole, seriously but the "Rattlesnake" bit got me going. I kid people about being "Snake Handlers".


48 posted on 12/19/2006 12:16:29 PM PST by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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To: MeanWestTexan
These nuts are about as representative of Jews-at-large as Fred Phelps and his nut churchmembers are representative of Christians.

I understand that, of course.

And it is as much the duty of reasonable Jews to distance themselves from these idiots as it is the duty of reasonable Christians to condemn Phelp's clan.

49 posted on 12/19/2006 12:16:59 PM PST by Wormwood (I'm with you in Rockland)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

Only because I'm a large guy.

(And Mrs. MWT is a bit over 6'0" herself, and she was about to do a little arse kicking, even with the twins in tow.)


50 posted on 12/19/2006 12:17:13 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: Wormwood

Consider them distanced.


51 posted on 12/19/2006 12:17:58 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: MeanWestTexan
Consider them distanced.

LOL! Thanks.

52 posted on 12/19/2006 12:18:44 PM PST by Wormwood (I'm with you in Rockland)
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To: Sarah

"They" is the self-appointd "morality police", who were acting like thugs.

TROP is "The Religion of Peace", better known as mohammedanism. TROP also features "morality police" who have a nasty habit of beating up women who "act up" ... as defined by the "morality police.


53 posted on 12/19/2006 12:19:16 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Sarah

I think this 'modesty patrol' sounds uncomfortably close to a Muslim 'vice and virtue' goon squad.


54 posted on 12/19/2006 12:19:53 PM PST by sportutegrl (This thread is useless without pix.)
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To: Sarah; ArrogantBustard

He's talking "they" as in story and TROP as in "The Religion Of Peace" AKA - muslims.


55 posted on 12/19/2006 12:20:31 PM PST by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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To: Sarah
Served the harlot right!

Doesn't she know by now that it is the "back of the bus" for women and blacks?

56 posted on 12/19/2006 12:21:44 PM PST by albee (The best thing you can do for the poor is.....not be one of them. - Eric Hoffer)
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To: PeteB570; Sarah
In French, trop de < quelquechose > would be "too much of < whatever >" ... in American English, all caps usually indicates an acronym, though, not a foreign word.
57 posted on 12/19/2006 12:23:42 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ichabod1; Dog Gone; Red Badger

I was on a plane and the Captain was serving drinks. I said, "Two punches, Pilot!"


58 posted on 12/19/2006 12:24:05 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Wormwood

I'll try to describe this in a way for you to grasp it. (no insult intended) Not that I agree with what they did in any way.

There are certain bus lines that cater to a very homogenous public. They run from one very observant neighborhood, through others, and end up at the Kotel. (The wailing wall)
Everyone who takes these buses appreciates the tacit understanding of separate (but equal) seating, as it touches the sensibilities of both sexes. Women like to be modest, and the men appreciate the modesty of the women (for, I hope, obvious reasons.) Thus the men in front and women in back, more out of sight.
And this is just understood. And it was NOT a specifically designated bus. (there are some, and also some privately run ones.) So this woman was totally within her rights to sit where she did. It's the fact that she's a tourist, and the world famous 'When in Roman' bit that shows her insensitivity.
All that said, these men obviously aren't well, and totally misconstrue priorities.


59 posted on 12/19/2006 12:26:18 PM PST by Sarah
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To: ArrogantBustard

Thanks.
I live in France and thought the poster may have remembered me from another thread...


60 posted on 12/19/2006 12:28:14 PM PST by Sarah
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