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To: newzjunkey
I've never been able to figure out how restrooms get segregated stalls but students must shower in a bin open arena under a "watchful" eye.

Personally, I think communal showering is dehumanizing. Children are reflexively and universally reluctant to undress in front of strangers, even strangers of the same sex. I can't find any history of communal showering in American schooling, but I can only assume that it's simply one aspect of the goal of compulsory schooling, which is anti-individual and collectivist.

51 posted on 12/19/2006 5:03:25 AM PST by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: Aquinasfan
Personally, I think communal showering is dehumanizing.

That makes two of us.

53 posted on 12/19/2006 6:08:35 AM PST by newzjunkey (Enjoy your retirement, Rummy.)
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To: Aquinasfan
Personally, I think communal showering is dehumanizing. Children are reflexively and universally reluctant to undress in front of strangers, even strangers of the same sex.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

We should start calling this what it is: Child abuse.

Hm...lets apply this principle to a private citizen. What if a parent were to invite a group of girls or boys over to their home for a party. What would happen if the parent encouraged, forced, cajoled, or manipulated these children into participating in a group shower? The SS ( state social workers) would soon be at that citizen's door.

So...If children would be uncomfortable and embarrassed if group showers were done privately, and this would be labeled abuse, then the same should apply to teachers and principals.

It is past time. Teachers and principals should be held to the EXACT same standards of safety and conduct as ordinary citizens.
69 posted on 12/19/2006 2:58:24 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid)
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