It is apparent that Rick Warren lacks discernment ... to aid a politican who supports partial birth slaughter of alive unborn children is a major failing, if the Pastor is in fact a Christian, not christian. I realize that we were warned some Pastors would have failings (that's why the attributes a Bishop/Pastor were stated in the NT), but in this age of blindness it is a deadly problem for such a prominent Pastor to lack discernment and side with the devil's servants in order to get some advantage on an issue. I thinks it's know as 'selling out' for worldly gain. Warren wants too desperately to remain sugar, when He calls believers to be salt, not sugar. Oh how I've wished I could have minutes to talk to such Pastors. But really, they no longer have ears to hear ... Rick's downfall will lead so very many astray when it comes, just as Ted Haggard's is doing.