Ohio cities prepare legal fight against gun bill

Akron Beacon Journal ^ | Dec. 17, 2006 | JULIE CARR SMYTH

[Clifford The Big Red Dog]

When it comes to the RKBA, 'Home Rule" be darned!

[rellimpank]

--ah, yes--city councils-generally Demotraitor-controlled--with too much time and money on their hands---

[goldstategop]

There's a split among the Democrats. Rural Dems support gun rights; urban Dems oppose it. So the fight is by no means entirely partisan.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

[Rakkasan1]

The taller the city's buildings, the more lib-wacked the city generally is.

[rellimpank]

--good point--

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

The Ohio Municipal League, which represents cities and backed Taft's veto, said the new law even strips cities of rights that private-property owners would have to, say, regulate gun activity at parks and playgrounds.

Since when did liberals care about private property rights?

The right to protect myself from criminal scumbags (who violate property rights laws everyday when they break into homes and stores, but the Municipal League won't tell you that) far outweighs the perceived concerns that people may have.

[RockinRight]

DC has a height cap but is majorly lib-whacked.

[Fee]

Dems never ask why a 14 year old rural boy gets into an argument with his classmate does not go home and get his daddy's semi auto rifle and shoot his detractors, while a 14 year old urban boy gets mad and gets even with his daddy's handgun the next day after an argument with his classmate. Is the answer, family values, cultural values or racial values?????

[VeniVidiVici]

Maureen Harper, a spokeswoman for Cleveland Mayor Frank Jackson. "We have a law that prohibits minors from possessing firearms. We have a law that holds adults accountable if a child is in possession of a firearm. Those are three that would definitely be affected by this."

One has to wonder if the liberals ever realize just how stupid they sound.

[sure_fine]

so ohio's big cities are on the side of the criminals

[neverdem]

One has to wonder if the liberals ever realize just how stupid they sound.

Obviously, they can't realize how stupid they sound. There should be a law against it. /s

[GoldenPup]

Let the liberal Whining begin!!! Any time anything goes against these bed-wetting hand-wringers, they whine, they moan, they cry, they blame it on "prejudice", blah, blah, blah. WAKE UP, MORONS...the vast majority of YOUR state's ELECTED representatives voted in the law...notwithstanding a Jello-spined governor's efforts at appeasement of the minority. Democracy wins...this time. Ain't this a GREAT country!!!!

[Lockbar]

Members of the Ohio Gun Collectors Assoc. lost a very nice gun show facility, the "IX Center" located next to Cleveland airport when the land was annexed by the city of Cleveland about 4 years ago. It has been struggle to find a decent facility large enough to facilitate the show in its past glory. Hopefully this will change things.

[stevie_d_64]

"More and more, I'm reminded how it is the rural versus the urban," she said. "They've never lived there (in the city), never had a killing. Their communities are filled with people who have all hunted all their lives, and they don't relate to what's happening in the big cities."

You know, they actually might have something here...

They are correct...Rural and Urban environments are different...

How things are prevented and handled are diferent too...

Rather obvious conclusion I know...

But it just amazes me how in flux Ohio actually is on many levels, politically, socially and morally...

Just amazing...

[DManA]

They don't like the law the legislature wrote and now hope the court will write them better law.

[spintreebob]

The Ohio Municipal League, which represents cities and backed Taft's veto, said the new law even strips cities of rights

This demonstrates ignorance on the part of the Municipal League. It is impossible for cities to have rights. So it is impossible for cities to be stripped of rights.

Rights come from God/natural law and are given ONLY to individual PERSONS. For example, a city does not have a right to life. To say it has a right to freedom of religion, makes the absurdity clear. A city cannot "believe in God" due to the nature of a city that has nothing to do with laws and constitutions. Only individual persons have the ability to believe in God, or not to believe.

Governments, including cities, states and national, have POWERS. In this case, the state legislature, that created the power of home rule, took away from the cities the power of violating the US constitution, and probably the Ohio constitution.

[Fudd]

Dems never ask why a 14 year old rural boy gets into an argument with his classmate does not go home and get his daddy's semi auto rifle and shoot his detractors, while a 14 year old urban boy gets mad and gets even with his daddy's handgun the next day after an argument with his classmate. Is the answer, family values, cultural values or racial values?????

I would suspect that many times the 14-year-old urban boy doesn't have a daddy, just the latest loser that's shacking up with his mamma.

[Mr. Lucky]

The right to exercise "home rule" was created by the Ohio Constitution, not the state legislature. As a general rule, however, a municipal ordinance may not conflict with the general law of the state.

[B.O. Plenty]

Ohio's big cities were contemplating joining forces to stop it.

You get the government you vote for and deserve.....no matter where you are.