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U.S. forces 'losing' in Iraq, Powell says (gag alert)
Int'l Herald Tribune ^ | 12-17-06 | Brian Knowlton

Posted on 12/17/2006 5:14:36 PM PST by STARWISE

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To: STARWISE

pretty darn close to giving comfort to the enemy!


121 posted on 12/18/2006 8:37:10 AM PST by sappy
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To: ARealMothersSonForever

You sound like you belong at DU.


122 posted on 12/18/2006 8:37:27 AM PST by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Now, that is an excellent question. I'm sure someone has the numbers. I don't question a need to increase our military in these dangerous times... I just prefer it remain voluntary.


123 posted on 12/18/2006 9:10:11 AM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Non-Sequitur; All


http://www.defenselink.mil/home/features/2006/sixyears/index.html


124 posted on 12/18/2006 9:54:07 AM PST by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: STARWISE

Amazingly enough not a word on increasing the size of the armed forces at all. If Clinton is to be condemned for downsizing then shouldn't the President be condemned for failing to increase size? We're fighting with basically the same sized army and marines we had in 2001.


125 posted on 12/18/2006 10:01:08 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Mo1
He called them broken

Thursday, January 6, 2005

General Says Army Reserve Is Becoming a 'Broken' Force

The head of the Army Reserve has sent a sharply worded memo to other military leaders expressing "deepening concern" about the continued readiness of his troops, who have been used heavily in Iraq and Afghanistan, and warning that his branch of 200,000 soldiers "is rapidly degenerating into a 'broken' force."

In the memo, dated Dec. 20, Lt. Gen. James R. "Ron" Helmly lashed out at what he said were outdated and "dysfunctional" policies on mobilizing and managing the force. He complained that his repeated requests to adjust the policies to current realities have been rebuffed by Pentagon authorities.

Top general: Army 'will break' without more troops

"At this pace ... we will break the active component" unless more reserves can be called up to help, Schoomaker said in prepared remarks.

126 posted on 12/18/2006 10:31:35 AM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: ARealMothersSonForever

Most I know in the military can't stand Powell or Weasley Clark. And this includes many folks...


127 posted on 12/18/2006 10:35:52 AM PST by ohioman
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To: ARealMothersSonForever
"He was also a battaion commander in Korea from 1973 to 1974"


He should have been in Korea in the 31st RCT in 1950 to learn what losing was really like.


"If your men withdraw as much as foot from their positions, my tanks will fire on them"

Col. Chesty Puller to the Army Captain in charge of the 385 survivors of the destroyed 31st RCT.
128 posted on 12/18/2006 10:36:14 AM PST by Griddlee
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To: Non-Sequitur
2006 US Army Posture Statement

See page V

129 posted on 12/18/2006 10:38:31 AM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: ARealMothersSonForever

Uh, I think you have the wrong guy. I never suggested or hinted that we should support Hezbollah anywhere. If Powell is saying we shouldn't, that's sensible and it wouldn't be part of my criticism at all.


130 posted on 12/18/2006 10:45:15 AM PST by California Patriot ("That's not Charlie the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: TexKat
See page V

What about it? It says that the active duty army component is 487,000. Look back to 2001 and you'll find that the authorized active duty component was about 487,000. They're staffing the war with reservists and National Guards, both of which have a legislative limit on how long they can serve for any given time. More and more of the load will continue to fall on the active duty army. Yet the administration hasn't increased it's size. Again, you want to criticize Clinton for downsizing the army, fine. I doubt he had any idea we'd be occupying Iraq two years after he left office otherwise he and the Republican congess might not have cut as much. But we're 4 years into the war and the current administration is fighting it with roughly the same staffing levels that Clinton left office with. Which is worse?

131 posted on 12/18/2006 10:48:32 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: TexKat

You totally missed my point


132 posted on 12/18/2006 10:51:55 AM PST by Mo1 (Thank You Mr & Mrs "I'm gonna teach you a lesson" Voter ... you just screwed us on so many levels)
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To: Non-Sequitur
Again, you want to criticize Clinton for downsizing the army, fine. I doubt he had any idea we'd be occupying Iraq two years after he left office otherwise he and the Republican congess might not have cut as much. But we're 4 years into the war and the current administration is fighting it with roughly the same staffing levels that Clinton left office with.

Correction Non-Sequitur, you have never seen a post of mine criticizing any military person who has served this country.

I will take it that you meant that part of your post for someone else.

133 posted on 12/18/2006 10:54:45 AM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

P.S. Yeah I know Clinton did not serve.


134 posted on 12/18/2006 10:56:03 AM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

I recall being stunned that we stopped at the border between Kuwait and Iraq in GW1. Bush 41 later claimed it was his decision. IMO, a lot of the anger and hostility that Bush 43 is taking is the direct result of 41's decision to end the war early. I think that if we had taken care of business then, we wouldn't be doing this again in Iraq, and 43 doesn't want to blame his dad (who would want to blame their parent?).


135 posted on 12/18/2006 11:04:33 AM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: Plains Drifter

We don't have to "believe" that he is a product of affirmative action any more - we can see proof positive of it every time he opens his mouth.


136 posted on 12/18/2006 11:50:56 AM PST by twonie (Just because there are fewer of us don't mean we are wrong.)
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To: ARealMothersSonForever

Very nice paragraph stating the positions he held. Affirmative action could have been responsible for all of that. I didn't call him a traitor, I call him an incompetent and a yes-man of the first water. OK?


137 posted on 12/18/2006 11:54:42 AM PST by twonie (Just because there are fewer of us don't mean we are wrong.)
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To: marcosdouglas77

>>Let's be consistent.


You're gonna have to get a loaf of bread for that.


138 posted on 12/18/2006 11:56:30 AM PST by swarthyguy
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To: sgtbono2002

Right on - he didn't win Gulf I, he sat on his butt in Washington, appeared on TV and polished his "shining tail" while other people planned and carried out the war.


139 posted on 12/18/2006 11:57:25 AM PST by twonie (Just because there are fewer of us don't mean we are wrong.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Maybe because they are saying the same thing-

"Let me remind the committee, however, that, while new options are explored and debated, my testimony should not be taken to imply approval of shifts in direction."

"In the north, significant progress is being made in transitioning security responsibilities to capable Iraqi forces. Currently, around 80 percent of the sectarian violence in Iraq happens within a 35-mile radius of Baghdad."

" In discussions with our commanders and Iraqi leaders, it is clear that they believe Iraqis forces can take more control faster, provided we invest more manpower and resources into the coalition military transition teams, speed the delivery of logistics and mobility enablers and embrace an aggressive Iraqi-led effort to disarm illegal militias."

Investing more manpower and resources into transition teams. Hmmm.

http://www.centcom.mil/sites/uscentcom1/Press%20Briefings/Nov%2015%2006%20-%20Senate%20Armed%20Services%20Committee%20Holds%20Hearing%20on%20Current%20Situation%20in%20Iraq%20and%20Afghanistan.htm


140 posted on 12/18/2006 1:18:44 PM PST by ARealMothersSonForever
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