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Is Obama the new 'black'? (Is He Really An African-American?)
LA Times ^ | 17 December 2006 | Gregory Rodgriguez

Posted on 12/17/2006 9:02:23 AM PST by shrinkermd

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To: alloysteel
the most diabolical Trojan Horse in history

That one gets my vote

81 posted on 12/17/2006 11:16:30 AM PST by Regulator
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To: ValerieUSA

I believe Tiger's mother is Thai. I believe his father met her while serving in the Air Force in Thailand.


82 posted on 12/17/2006 11:18:47 AM PST by elhombrelibre (A sober Jimmy Carter says what Mel Gibson would only say in a very drunken rant.)
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To: shrinkermd

Does color mean George Hamilton can reclassify himself?

83 posted on 12/17/2006 11:31:44 AM PST by MikeyGo (Pray for our warriors. And pray their political enemies will not have the power to stop them.)
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To: Xenalyte
Are either of his parents from Africa?

Yes, his father.

84 posted on 12/17/2006 11:37:57 AM PST by PAR35
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To: elhombrelibre
"So it's long hair that brings out 'MORE OF' her beauty?"

True with every woman who has ever lived. (Note the clarification added in bold to your quote above)

85 posted on 12/17/2006 11:38:46 AM PST by Al Simmons
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To: elhombrelibre
"Here, poor Halle's hair is covered, but I'd be willing to bet some guys think she looks okay."

OK. Stop the torture already. She looks good in leather. So what else is new?

86 posted on 12/17/2006 11:40:23 AM PST by Al Simmons
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To: ValerieUSA

One of Tiger's grandparents was white (father's side).


87 posted on 12/17/2006 11:41:30 AM PST by Al Simmons
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To: Prost1

Ask Kramer?? JK


88 posted on 12/17/2006 11:42:27 AM PST by sanjacjake
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To: sanjacjake

I firmly believe that the 'Kramer' actor was on drugs went he went on that rant. Either that or he's mentally ill. No one else could be that stupid.


89 posted on 12/17/2006 11:43:22 AM PST by Al Simmons
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To: Al Simmons
"So it's long hair that brings out 'MORE OF' her beauty?" True with every woman who has ever lived. (Note the clarification added in bold to your quote above)

I beg to differ.


90 posted on 12/17/2006 11:44:31 AM PST by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, thats how you sell clothing.)
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To: Al Simmons

You're right. That's cruel and unusual punishment.


92 posted on 12/17/2006 12:16:33 PM PST by elhombrelibre (A sober Jimmy Carter says what Mel Gibson would only say in a very drunken rant.)
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To: Al Simmons
She was captivating, enchanting, desirous and lovable in "Two for the Road" with Albert Finney.
93 posted on 12/17/2006 12:36:41 PM PST by Prost1 (Fair and Unbiased as always!)
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To: Al Simmons
"he complained about the way his father had been treated at 'whites only' golf courses decades ago"

That's the usual, typical, subtle race-card play: "we don't allow people to CHOOSE who they may or may not associate, based on personal preference". Likewise, if I am the business owner and wish to create a clientele-base that I decide is in my BUSINESS best interest, why do you support the thought Police mandating my free choice? (The same has been done to smokers, where the politically correct smoke Nazi's have no problem singling out a targeted GROUP, to make THEMSELVES comfortable). Because smokers represent the small minority (as do blacks in society), their interests are trodden upon freely by those who "know better", whereas you can't do that if race is involved....

He has the typical blonde trophy wife of a rich athlete, which is not addressed by anyone, either. Amazingly, NO ONE mentions how many rich certain race celebrities CHOOSE white (usually blonde) wives, as this is NOT something we should note. The whole race-bating ignoring of the obvious is a sad statement by the afraid-to-admit-it, politically correct, "trendy" crowd.

94 posted on 12/17/2006 12:41:44 PM PST by traditional1
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To: ValerieUSA
I don't think Tiger's mother is white.

His mother is Thai, moreso she is Chinese-Thai, and his father a half-black, one-quarter American Indian, one-quarter white), as reported by Woods himself.

'But just "who I am" remained contested ground. According to Time magazine, Woods' coming out as a Cablinasian caused "a mini-racial firestorm ... Woods' remarks infuriated many African Americans who ... see him as a traitor ... Some blacks saw Woods' assertion of a multiracial identity as a sellout that could touch off an epidemic of 'passing.'

Adding fuel to the fire stirred up by Woods' comments are their political implications. Congress is considering adding a multiracial category to the 2000 census, and supporters of the controversial new category immediately seized upon Woods' statement as evidence that the old categories -- black, white, Asian and Pacific Islander, native American and "other" -- are inadequate. Civil rights groups like the NAACP, who are bitterly opposed to adding the multiracial category because they fear it will lead to a loss of black political and economic clout, are not likely to enjoy the spectacle of Woods becoming a poster child for multiracialism.'

95 posted on 12/17/2006 12:48:56 PM PST by traditional1
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To: Fido969
There are lots of reasons to be against Obama for President (or anything else). He is a fairly standard issue liberal, though somewhat more open to sensible ideas than many. But I want to make two points for the record

1. He is very smart. You underestimate him, or his intelligence, at your peril. He is not an "affirmative-action" entrant to almost anything. I don't know his college record, but it seems to have been good. At Harvard Law, we do know:

a. He made harvard Law review, which is not done by AA -- it has been criticized for having very few blacks

b. He graduated magna cum laude, which DEFINITELY is done only by grades, and which is not given out for green stamps -- it means the top 10% of the class or better. His becoming president of the law review is another sign, though it is an elective office among the memebrs, it is elected by some of the most cut-throat folks you will ever find, who would not give up a coveted spot for a-a reasons -- as shown by the fact that he is the first black pres of law review, after many years of A-A in admissions

2. I think the hunt for secret Muslim roots just won't fly. He returned to Hawaii in 5th grade, and was basically raised by his grandparents, attending a very good (though quite large, and thus not super-snooty ) private school there. The roots of a father who left him at age 2, or an Indonesian stepfather that his mother married when he was a small child (and was apparently an oil executive) isn't going to convince many people that there is a "Muslim gene" this is implanted in him.

rather, he is a fairly conventional "liberal" Chrisitan. His Mom seems to have been a typical 60s "free-thinker" type, who did marry both his father and step father, which is pretty "bourgeois-minded" for her time and place.

So, my theme is simply -- take him on for his politics, but don't think he is either a "phony" or simply a media creation. One further note -- when a rising state senator, he did have the guts (as well as ambition, I grant), to take on the loathsome Congressman Bobby Rush in the Democratic primary (he lost), when it didn't seem a very smart thing to do.

96 posted on 12/17/2006 3:13:39 PM PST by BohDaThone
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To: shooter223
if a white man born in South Africa becomes a U.S. citizen,does that make him an African-American?

I had a friend who was half Egyptian (Coptic). I urged her to put herself down as African American. Egypt is in Africa, after all, and the AfroCentrists are always bragging about the accomplishment of the Egyptians, taking it for their own

97 posted on 12/17/2006 4:23:24 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the arrogance to think they will be the planners)
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To: elhombrelibre
re first black Oscar winner: link to IMDB listing for Gone With The Wind, and Hattie's Oscar
98 posted on 12/17/2006 4:32:02 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the arrogance to think they will be the planners)
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To: alloysteel

ping


99 posted on 12/17/2006 5:17:41 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: conservative blonde

"... Does anyone know his religious preference?"

I've read his own comments where he claims to be Christian, that there are many paths to God, and that his mother is a hard core secular humanist.

Based on this, I've come to the conclusion he is a follower of the Christian-in-name-only New Age One World religion.


100 posted on 12/17/2006 5:34:46 PM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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