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[Fascist] Pelosi Targets Grassroots Freedom of Speech
Human Events ^ | Dec 18, 2006 | Amanda B. Carpenter

Posted on 12/15/2006 6:03:14 PM PST by Jim Robinson

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To: Matchett-PI

That pretty much sums it up


241 posted on 12/16/2006 7:50:09 AM PST by Mo1 (Thank You Mr & Mrs "I'm gonna teach you a lesson" Voter ... you just screwed us on so many levels)
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To: Matchett-PI
Many on this very board... (Sorry for the typo)
242 posted on 12/16/2006 7:50:23 AM PST by Matchett-PI (To have no voice in the Party that always sides with America's enemies is a badge of honor.)
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To: gruffwolf
Rick Santorum. Yes, I know he's a great person but he had 12 years to make a difference in the Senate yet his only defense against Casey's attacks was to make his own attacks on Casey. Huh? 12 years in Congress and he can't get up in front of a crowd and run on his merits?

Actually he could have. Most people apparently acknowledge that Santorum did a great deal for the people of PA. Santorum chose to make this election about the threat of Islamic terror. He called it the central issue of our time. This approach may have been a tactical error on his part. However, he felt that his duty to the people was to talk about the issue that threatens all of civilization.

243 posted on 12/16/2006 7:52:38 AM PST by outofstyle
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To: Jim Robinson

Here goes Rush; Hannity; and the rest of the talk shows she doesn't like......

I hope when this starts to happen, we are all on the same page to stop her....its OUR freedom of speech, not HER'S....remember that....


244 posted on 12/16/2006 7:58:42 AM PST by HarleyLady27 (My ? to libs: "Do they ever shut up on your planet?" "Grow your own DOPE: Plant a LIB!")
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To: dcwusmc; Howlin; KevinDavis; Mo1

"I notice there is no refutation... just snide remarks. Which is no more than I have learned to expect from someone who loves to beat up non-pubbie conservatives, then DEMANDS they vote for the candidates of YOUR choice..." ~ dcwusmc

Ignorant and uninformed people "feel" the way you do. Wise up.

"Why Party Trumps Person". [excerpted]

A time-honored cliche heard every election year goes something like this: "I'm an independent thinker; I vote the person, not the party." This pronouncement is supposed to demonstrate open-mindedness and political sophistication on the part of the pronouncer. It's your vote, cast it any way you like - or not at all.

But idealism and naivete about the way our electoral process and system of government works shouldn't be mistaken for wisdom or savvy.

For better or worse, we have a two-party system. And party trumps person. Either a Republican or a Democrat is going to be elected... No one else has a chance.

..not the Libertarian candidate, nor the Communist, nor the Green. Minor party candidates are sometimes spoilers .. but they don't win.. elections. Ross Perot got 20 million popular votes in 1992, and exactly zero Electoral College votes.

In Europe's multiparty, parliamentary democracies, governing coalitions are formed after an election.

In our constitutional republic, the coalitions are formed first.

The Republican coalition includes, for the most part, middle- and upper-income taxpayers (but not leftist Hollywood millionaires and George Soros), individualists who prefer limited government, pro-market and pro-business forces, believers in American exceptionalism and a strong national defense, social-issues conservatives and supporters of traditional American values.

The Democratic coalition is an alliance of collectivists, labor unions (especially the teachers' unions), government workers, academics, plaintiffs-lawyers, lower- and middle-income net tax-receivers, most minorities, feminists, gays, enviros, and activists for various anti-capitalist, anti-business, anti-military, anti-gun, one-world causes.

...party trumps person because [regardless of the individual who wins an election] the coalition will be served.

.. After the individual members of a new Congress have been seated, a figurative nose count is taken and the party with the most noses wins. That victory carries with it control of all committee and subcommittee chairmanships, the locus of legislative power.

Now, let's say you're a registered Republican voter who clearly prefers the Republican philosophy of governance. And you're a good-natured, well-intentioned person who happens to like an individual Democrat, a Senate candidate, who's somewhat conservative. You decide to cross party lines and vote for him.

As it turns out, he wins, beating a Republican and giving the Democrats a one-vote majority, 51-49, in the U.S. Senate.

Congratulations! You just got Ted Kennedy, Patrick Leahy, Dianne Feinstein and Hillary Clinton as key committee chairs, and a guarantee that your Republican legislative agenda will be stymied.

That's the way the process works.

Does this mean that in a two-party system like ours it comes down to choosing between the lesser of two evils?

You bet it does.

That's not to say that either party is really "evil," that's just an expression.

If we had [300] million custom-tailored minor parties, everyone could find his perfect match.

But that's not practical.

You can be a purist and cast your vote symbolically with a boutique party, or be a player and settle for the least imperfect of the Republican or Democrat alternatives.

Your vote, your choice. ~ Mike Rosen http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1728426/posts


245 posted on 12/16/2006 8:00:59 AM PST by Matchett-PI (To have no voice in the Party that always sides with America's enemies is a badge of honor.)
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To: RetiredArmy

If they go after Talk radio and reintitue the fairness doctrine, then everyone would go go Sat Radio and the regular radio would suffer.
The dems cant quiet the voice of the poeple, no matter how hard they try.


246 posted on 12/16/2006 8:01:07 AM PST by Yorlik803 ( When are we going to draw a line a say"this far and no farther")
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To: gruffwolf

See #245 and 240. They're for people like you.


247 posted on 12/16/2006 8:06:44 AM PST by Matchett-PI (To have no voice in the Party that always sides with America's enemies is a badge of honor.)
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To: JoyjoyfromNJ

bookmarking this to spread the word to non-freepers.


248 posted on 12/16/2006 8:34:08 AM PST by JoyjoyfromNJ (Psalm 121)
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To: Jim Robinson

Campaign Finance "Reform," Part II


249 posted on 12/16/2006 8:50:39 AM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Pray for our President and for our heroes in Iraq and Afghanistan, and around the world!)
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To: Lurker; beyond the sea




"She used to have a website "Wolfes Lodge", but it's been offline for a couple of years."




Go here:
http://www.clairewolfe.com/
Good info.




250 posted on 12/16/2006 9:10:11 AM PST by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional.)
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To: MEGoody

"Good thing those morons who claim to be conservatives but wanted to 'teach the Republican party a lesson' have to suffer along with the rest of us. Maybe THEY will learn a few lessons." ~ MEGoody

The ignorant and uniformed don't get that way by learning any lessons of importance. The only thing dumb brutes understand is what Cal Thomas recommended before the election. His remedy wasn't applied, so fools did what comes naturally.

November 02, 2006

The 2006 Choice
By Cal Thomas
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2006/11/the_2006_choice.html

Conservatives who are upset that Republicans haven't done enough during their 12 years in control of the House and Senate and nearly six years in control of the White House need a slap in the face.

Republicans may have controlled all three branches of government, but conservatives haven't.

If conservatives believe enough has not been done to advance their agenda, let them work to elect more conservatives, not hand control of Congress over to a party controlled by far-left liberals who have no intention of moderating their tone or watering down their beliefs after the election.

One issue should trump all others for conservatives: judges.

As Manuel Miranda of Third Branch writes in Human Events, "If the GOP loses the Senate, precedent shows that more than 60 Bush judicial nominees will never get a Judiciary Committee hearing under the chairmanship of Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.).

Republicans will be unable to stop a filibuster of a next Supreme Court nominee and countless circuit court picks. This will dwarf Democrats' past six years of obstruction."

Liberals have used the courts for decades to bypass the public will and impose a secular agenda on the country.

If they win control of the Senate, their current leadership will be emboldened to continue that practice.

Any judge who manages to make it onto the bench will most likely be of the judicial philosophy of Anthony Kennedy and David Souter. Republican presidents named both men because they thought it would be easier to win the approval of Senate Democrats. Neither turned out to be conservative, despite the White House sales job to conservative groups.

Then there is the war.

We live in a time when most people do not remember what a real war looks like.

Some are horrified that nearly 3,000 Americans have died in the Iraq War, but ignore that in World War II more than 407,000 Americans died. Sixty-two million were killed on all sides.

Some say this war is taking longer than that war.

That's because this war is different from that war in that it has no home state, unless we abandon Iraq. And the enemy accepts no rules for fighting it.

Democrats speak only of withdrawing American troops and of how our presence inflames the enemy, yet they have no explanation for what inflamed them before the war.

President Bush may have to change tactics, as he has said he is willing to do, but he understands the challenge. This isn't Vietnam.

This is a religious-philosophical war for control of the planet.

Anyone who thinks any objective other than the complete defeat and humiliation of these Islamofascists will deter them from their goal of world domination is self-delusional.

Last week over lunch, I asked Vice President Dick Cheney about conservative angst. He said in previous campaigns, "I would have given a lot to get an economy this good to be able to run on." Noting the recession that occurred right after he and the president took office in 2001, Cheney told me, "We (also) had 9/11. . We had Katrina, a war.

We had to spend a lot of money on the war and homeland security. And so a series of repeated shocks... to the economy and here we are, we've got 4.6 unemployment. We added 6.6 million new jobs in the last three years. Productivity is running at an all-time high. More Americans (are) working than ever before. Inflation is under control. . The stock market has hit all-time records.

What do you want? How much better do we have to make it before people say, 'yes, that's pretty good'?" It's a good question.

Is there anyone who believes government doesn't have enough of our money? Then vote for Democrats.

Is there anyone who thinks withdrawing from Iraq before the country can stand on its own against terrorism means there won't be more terrorism? Then vote for Democrats.

Do you prefer liberal judges reading their prejudices into the Constitution and increasingly depriving us of our right to decide our own future? Then vote for Democrats.

If not, conservatives should vote Republican and then work to continue advancing conservative goals. Those goals are more likely to be reached under Republicans than under Democrats.

That's the choice this year, a choice that will be made whether one votes, or cuts and runs out of a false notion that Republicans need to be punished for not doing more.

As the vice president said, "What do you want?"

Cal@CalThomas.com


251 posted on 12/16/2006 9:11:17 AM PST by Matchett-PI (To have no voice in the Party that always sides with America's enemies is a badge of honor.)
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To: Howlin

Two words - McCain-Feingold


252 posted on 12/16/2006 9:18:04 AM PST by Verax (""Colored people are like human weeds and are to be exterminated - Planned Parenthood President,")
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To: Verax

Two words: Hillary Clinton.


253 posted on 12/16/2006 9:21:51 AM PST by Howlin
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To: muawiyah

Hopefully she will not be joined by John McCain, ok'd by the courts, or have her proposals signed into law.


254 posted on 12/16/2006 9:30:57 AM PST by Libertina
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To: gruffwolf
I don't have blind loyalty, I do feel if you want to make a change you have to do it in the primaries and most people don't even bother to vote in primaries.

Look at what happened in Utah in the primary election between Cannon and Jacobs --

Freepers came out of the woodwork to trash other Freepers wantsing Cannon to lose because he is pro-open-borders... "How can you not support someone with his high ACU rating" they said... searched for anything to hold against Jacobs, who admitedly wasn't the greatest campaigner, but Cannon is certain not lilly white -- however, they didn't care as long as his ACU rating was high.

So only 20% voted in the primary, Cannon won and went on to be returned, again, to the congress and an opportunity for change in the GOP in DC was lost.

We the voters need to term-limit our representatives (IMO)... but what response would you have received if you'd broached the subject of replacing Rick in the primary? Probably labeled a troll and run off.

That said, once we are through the primary then we do need to support the party, the alternative is too horrific to ponder and we are about to see it first hand. My preference for 2008 is probably Newt at this point, but if the party elects Rudy, I will support Rudy... not Hillary or Obama.

255 posted on 12/16/2006 9:37:00 AM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: gruffwolf

Santorium should have never supported Specter over Toomey (which makes my point about primaries)....


256 posted on 12/16/2006 9:37:52 AM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: brityank

Thanks! I like people like this.


257 posted on 12/16/2006 10:00:22 AM PST by beyond the sea ( All lies and jest, still the man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Hold on to your butts!


258 posted on 12/16/2006 10:41:01 AM PST by Sword_Svalbardt (Sword Svalbardt)
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To: Jim Robinson

What a perfect indicator of what to expect from the Dims in the coming years. Even worse might be 'leaky' Leahy in charge of "justice" and indirectly of "national security".

Would it be a far reach to compare the DemoRats mind sets with those of nutjob Ahmadi-Nejad of Iran? Except perhaps in physical brutality?

Though John Kerry and Jimmah Carter, possibly Ted Kennedy, may not deserve any exemption at all since their infliction of mental pain with their drivel has parity with physical pain.

Where does all this leave us FReepers?


259 posted on 12/16/2006 11:29:05 AM PST by FARS
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To: All; beyond the sea


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True VIGILANCE =


The Man Who Predicted 9/11,


9/11 Lifesaver RICK RESCORLA, ..R.I.P.

http://www.RickRescorla.com
(The Website)

http://www.RickRescorla.com/The%20Statue.htm
(The Pictures)

http://www.ArmchairGeneral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24361
(The Forum)

.


260 posted on 12/16/2006 11:47:28 AM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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