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To: zimdog
False. Chad, which had that largest proportion of Muslims, was the very first colony to support de Gaulle. Also, Chad and Cameroon were the most populous colonies and also had the highest concentration of Muslims in French Equatorial Africa.

The only falsehood is your misrepresentation of my argument. I pointed out that Chad was 50% muslim and acknowledged them as a De Gaulle colony (and the only muslim De Gaulle colony, BTW) before you even posted so much as a single statistic. Cameroon's muslim population was 15.8% in 1995. That's hardly a high "concentration." Only Chad had significant numbers of mahometans among the De Gaulle colonies.

You would have to prove that.

The De Gaulle colonies are documented historical fact. I am simply pointing out that there was only one muslim colony among them. Echenberg does not give numbers for each colony but did give the colony-by-colony breakdown of West Africa's contributions to the French army, which he claims are representative.

All of that is nice, except that it draws mainly from colonies that were latecomers to the French war effort. Meanwhile the French Christians of the De Gaulle colonies had already been fighting for 3 years.

381 posted on 01/25/2007 9:53:54 AM PST by lqclamar
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To: lqclamar
The only falsehood is your misrepresentation of my argument. I pointed out that Chad was 50% muslim and acknowledged them as a De Gaulle colony (and the only muslim De Gaulle colony, BTW) before you even posted so much as a single statistic. Cameroon's muslim population was 15.8% in 1995. That's hardly a high "concentration." Only Chad had significant numbers of mahometans among the De Gaulle colonies.

You argument in #351 was clear: "The muslim northern French Equatorial colonies were Vichy controlled for the first half of the war and contributed far less to the allied side than non-Vichy colonies."

The northernmost and Muslimmost colony in French Equatoria Africa was Chad, which is also, as you've pointed out before, the only colony in French Equatorial Africa with a Muslim majority. It was also the first colony to support de Gaulle, shortly after France fell to Germany in 1940. It is unlikely that Chad ever gave its allegiance to Vichy, save for bureaucratic assumptions in Europe. It is inconceivable that Chad was controlled by Vichy for the first half of the war.

The De Gaulle colonies are documented historical fact. I am simply pointing out that there was only one muslim colony among them.

I repeat, with clarification so you don't bend the argument: You would have to prove that the bulk of the FFL came from the De Gaulle controlled colonies of Cameroon, Gabon, Chad, Middle Congo, and Ubangu-Chari. If you can make this claim, you must know the number of troops from Equatorial Africa and West Africa.

Meanwhile the French Christians of the De Gaulle colonies had already been fighting for 3 years.

That's a nice claim to make, but it's essentially the same as my initial statement that Muslims formed a plurality of the FFL's African troops -- the one you felt was and onerous breech of historical fact.. You would need to provide numbers, as well as battles, etc.

399 posted on 01/25/2007 1:38:54 PM PST by zimdog
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