[lqclamar]

The fact remains that I wrote (#125) "In fact Khaldu[n] was writing as Christian Spaniards were engaged in a bloody Reconquista that they felt was a completely Just War by Augustinian standards."

And in a followup, you subsequently stated your Reconquista reference of 20th generation moors was to the fall of Granada in 1492, rather than the entire Reconquista. You then stated that this was implicit since you were referring to ibn Khaldun.

The problem with your neat little train of excuses, of course, is that ibn Khaldun died almost a century before Granada.

And now that you've finally discovered that you are on the retreat from the specific event of Granada 1492, which you were harping endlessly about only moments ago, to emphasize the fact that Khaldun only lived during the Reconquista. Such mistakes and backtracking as you've just done are typical of somebody who feigns knowledge as a cover for internet searches. Perhaps elsewhere you've gotten away with it, zimdog. But your shell game is exposed now. Take a word of friendly advice - accept your losses and move on. Continuing this charade any further only makes you look pitiful.

[zimdog]

And in a followup, you subsequently stated your Reconquista reference of 20th generation moors was to the fall of Granada in 1492, rather than the entire Reconquista.

Quote the followup then.

And now that you've finally discovered that you are on the retreat from the specific event of Granada 1492, which you were harping endlessly about only moments ago, to emphasize the fact that Khaldun only lived during the Reconquista.

I don't believe I claimed that Khaldun instigated the Reconquista or ended it. My initial point was that the Reconquista was part of the intellectual world that he lived in when he lived in the 14th century. That your recognize that the end of the Reconquista comes after Khaldun's death shows that you accept the same common facts as true. Way to go, sport.

Such mistakes and backtracking as you've just done are typical of somebody who feigns knowledge as a cover for internet searches. Perhaps elsewhere you've gotten away with it, zimdog. But your shell game is exposed now.

I'll ask you a simple question: were there Moors in Iberia during Khaldun's life? Yes. Is it conceivable that some of them were 20th generation Iberians, given that the Moors first took power to the peninsula in the early 8th century. Yes.

Hopefully that will straighten you out.

Take a word of friendly advice - accept your losses and move on. Continuing this charade any further only makes you look pitiful.

I'll gladly take a word of friendly advice, but you're not my friend and you're in no position to give advice.