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To: zimdog
How then are these two fools "alike in their respective espousals of [...] the establishment of the aforementioned Islamic domain." When one wants to revive an institution that lost all real power a millennium ago and the other awaits the Messianic return on the 12th Imam and Christ to pave the way for the Mahdi and the Last Judgement?

Very simple. What do you think the purpose of the magic mahdi is in the eyes of most jihadi millenialists? Here's a hint - they don't think he'll make the world come to a sudden end. Rather they expect him to establish a global Islamic domain, presumably in the SHi'a model. Bin Laden also wants a global Islamic domain as well and thinks the caliphate is the way to go (although there is also some evidence that he might believe a restored caliphate is a means of bringing about the sunni mahdi figure as well). In short the means are different, but the ends - worldwide islamotopia, be it sunni or shia - are quite similar.

Given that such an argument holds water like a fork under judicial scrutiny, I'd counsel you to wait for the Chilean constitutional scholars to wake up.

It's funny you mention that since the Chilean Supreme Court made several rulings in 1973 pertaining to the Allende-induced constitutional crisis after he started seizing land and ignoring the legislature.

They were all against Allende, and he ignored their verdicts.

His refusal to obey the Chilean Supreme Court was one of the offenses against the constitution outlined by the Chamber of Deputies. Given that evidence, it's pretty safe to say that the Chilean judicial system was not on Allende's side.

160 posted on 01/09/2007 3:47:59 AM PST by lqclamar
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To: lqclamar
In short the means are different, but the ends - worldwide islamotopia, be it sunni or shia - are quite similar.

tell that to the iraqis.

His refusal to obey the Chilean Supreme Court was one of the offenses against the constitution outlined by the Chamber of Deputies. Given that evidence, it's pretty safe to say that the Chilean judicial system was not on Allende's side.

it's funny that you think that it's "pretty safe to say" whose side the Chilean judicial system was on when the issue at hand is the Constitutionality of the CoD's actions and Pinochet's coup had legitimacy or mere "support".

165 posted on 01/09/2007 4:32:40 AM PST by zimdog
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