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To: zimdog
Actually the FFL forces were primarily troops from France's African colonies until the latter stages of the war, during the Hexagon's liberation. And of these troops, Muslims formed a plurality.

Yet in terms of numbers to the overall war, they were at best a minor player amidst the allies.

A more likely explanation is that he gave theological reasons for his anti-Semitic stance against Jewish settlement in Palestine. Still, you've named one, and I've named tens of thousands.

No you haven't. You've named ten thousand soldiers in a minor ally colonial force on the war's periphery who also happened to be muslims. I've named the highest ranking muslim CLERIC in the holy land at that time.

No they weren't. They were fighting against Fascism and for freedom. There was nary a Nazi in upper French Guinea, western Niger, Chad, Centrafrique, etc.

They were fighting because nazism was expanding onto their turf. And yes, there were plenty of Nazis running around in Africa and many more Nazi allies such as the Italians running around in subsaharan Africa. But again, all of that was in the war's periphery. Though they fought admirably when the fascist crowd moved into their neighborhoods, very few muslims ever landed at Normandy or marched on Berlin.

If Moslems heart Nazis as much as you say, the "purely incidental" number of Muslims fighting the Nazis should have been much, much smaller.

And why would that be? It's human nature to fight an invader who has sights on acquiring the place you live. Hitler, Mussolini, and their allies had sights on the French African colonies, so their residents responded. Meanwhile leading Islamic clerics in the middle east were advising Hitler's regime on how to kill Jews.

Perhaps it was, but he was only one.

No he wasn't. The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem was the highest ranking Islamic authority in the holy land at the time. Husseini had hundreds of clerics under him who followed his pro-Nazi allegiances. Rashid al-Kaylani, prime minister of Iraq at the outset of WWII, was one of Husseini's followers. When Husseini was in Europe running around with Himmler he made a trip to the Balkans where he organized the 13th Waffen-Schutzstaffel, a division consisting of over 20,000 Muslim Nazis. After the war Husseini continued to have significant influence in the middle east. One of his proteges was Yasser Arafat.

126 posted on 01/08/2007 10:49:33 PM PST by lqclamar
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To: lqclamar
Yet in terms of numbers to the overall war, they were at best a minor player amidst the allies.

They constituted a plurality in the FFL, which was, need I remind you, a "victor" in the war. Your "Mufti of Jerusalem" operated a single anti-Semite, albeit one who enjoyed the considerable backing of the anti-Semetic German state.

No you haven't. You've named ten thousand soldiers in a minor ally colonial force on the war's periphery who also happened to be muslims. I've named the highest ranking muslim CLERIC in the holy land at that time.

Tens of thousands. I'll attribute that slip to a shaky hand and not shaky ethics.

And how many divisions did the Mufti have?

They were fighting because nazism was expanding onto their turf.

Which was why everyone was fighting. Fighting the expanding Nazi threat. However, there were no Nazis in Côte d'Ivoire.

Though they fought admirably when the fascist crowd moved into their neighborhoods,

Please tell me when Nazi troops were goosestepping through N'Djamena.

very few muslims ever landed at Normandy or marched on Berlin.

No, they came up the Italian peninsula and crossed into France.

Hitler, Mussolini, and their allies had sights on the French African colonies, so their residents responded.

Inasmuch as they had their sites on the whole world, yes.

No he wasn't. The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem was the highest ranking Islamic authority in the holy land at the time. Husseini had hundreds of clerics under him who followed his pro-Nazi allegiances.

So he was ranked highly among well-organized anti-Semites.

When Husseini was in Europe running around with Himmler he made a trip to the Balkans where he organized the 13th Waffen-Schutzstaffel, a division consisting of over 20,000 Muslim Nazis.

The 20,000 Muslim troops he helped recruit still pale in comparison to the tens of thousands of Muslim troops in the FFL.

133 posted on 01/08/2007 11:40:22 PM PST by zimdog
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