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"There is evidence that al-Qa'ida is trying to recruit white, American-born men and women who don't have Muslim names. By your "logic", that would certainly justify excluding whites from the country, or at least major population centers, right? "

You keep seeing this as a racial issue when it is clearly an ideological issue.

"You keep bringing up Nazism. Why is that? "

Just reminding you of the ideology you protect here. There is no real difference in goal between Mein Kampf and the Koran.

"What you propose violates the 1st, 4th, and 14th Amendments. "

It does not. Anymore than the banning German and Japanese "patriotic" organizations did in WWII.

"And since your "war" seems to be against Muslims worldwide, it will "inconvenience" more than "a few people" and unless you plan on killing a billion people (something I don't put past you), such a war that won't be over anytime soon. "

All billion Muslims live in CONUS? Since when?


"American culture entails a respect for the rule of law and the equality of all Americans. You cannot "conserve" American culture by destroying it, as you seem to want to do. "

Not when some "Americans" hold allegiance to a foreign power - the Ummah - and seek to impose their will on the rest of us. Right now, they use the courts. Once they have a larger percentage of the population, the violence will start in earnest - just as in Europe.

"I'm just pointing out your hypocrisy."

Look in the mirror.

"I'm not trying to put you in a concentration camp based on "guilt by association". Under your rules, that would be fine."

Your ideological friends would have me assume the position of dhimmi and "submit". Sorry, but I'm not willing to do that or see my country fall that way.
111 posted on 01/08/2007 5:32:11 PM PST by EnochPowellWasRight
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To: EnochPowellWasRight
You keep seeing this as a racial issue when it is clearly an ideological issue.

I'm not seeing it as a racial issue any more than the Japanese-American internment that you defend were "a racial issue." The facts are clear: Al-Qa'ida is actively seeking recruits among American-born whites with Christian names just as Imperial Japan was actively seeking recruits among Japanese immigrants who were naturalized American citizens. You argue that the latter case justified sending all West Coast residents of Japanese descent to concentration camps. By that same logic, why shouldn't we intern all native-born white people with Christian names?

There is no real difference in goal between Mein Kampf and the Koran.

I'll just let this flag of idiocy flap in the breeze.

It does not. Anymore than the banning German and Japanese "patriotic" organizations did in WWII.

Shipping Americans off to concentration camps based on ethnic and/or religious background is not the same as banning groups expressly formed to give aid and comfort to declared enemy states.

All billion Muslims live in CONUS? Since when?

That's not what I said. Do you only want to kill the Muslims that live in the continental US?

Not when some "Americans" hold allegiance to a foreign power - the Ummah

The "Ummah" is not a state anymore than "Christiandom" is.

Once they have a larger percentage of the population, the violence will start in earnest - just as in Europe.

A similar argument was made against recognizing African Americans' civil rights in the 1960s. Europe is not the United States and the United States is not Europe. One reason why there is a Muslim underclass (with the accompanying underclass violence) in Europe is because European states generally afford fewer political rights to their immigrants and are generally more racist than Americans. Witness the BNP.

Your ideological friends would have me assume the position of dhimmi and "submit".

I am an American and I submit to no one.

Sorry, but I'm not willing to do that or see my country fall that way.

You left your country long ago, EPWR. Whether you are a legal American citizen or not, it is clear that you have nothing but disdain for our civilization, our laws, and our people.

112 posted on 01/08/2007 6:00:44 PM PST by zimdog
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