[zimdog]

By assumptions/philosophical tenets I am talking about things like free will versus determinism and action versus faith, etc.

So do you group the Muslims with the Protestants? or with the Catholics and Jews?

And what does shorthand have to do with nuanced philosophical debate? Aren't these mutually exclusive??

You're the one who suggested that all this "Nuke the Üntermenschen" talk was shorthand for something. But if not for genocide, shorthand for what?

[statered]

My last post to you...

first off the use of the term Üntermenschen is stupid, especially considering the close ties between muslims and the nazis during that period. Secondly is beyond stupid when one considers that it is the muslims - even the moderate ones - that consider the jews the Üntermenschen.

"Nuke Mecca" is shorthand for the realization that militant Islam is a philosophy that CANNOT BE NEGOTIATED WITH, IT MUST BE DEFEATED. Once someone realizes this many times they cut to the chase and say lets throughly defeat this philosophy (elimination of of Mecca would be a big blow considering the haj is a pillar) instead of dying a death of a thousand cuts while operating under the illusion that it can be reformed. Never did I say that I agree with this view, only that I understand it.

You know where I stand so do not bother posting to me again. The dishonesty you display by mischarecterizing other's arguments and attempting to steer things in a racial direction when it is not needed demonstrate that you are not interested in discussing this in good faith.