Posted on 12/14/2006 9:32:26 AM PST by Ben Chad
Not good IMO.
LOL, no.
I don't think he tripped at all after that one.
Of course, I wasn't allowed to come anywhere near my brother's friends anymore.
I am very sure much of the reason the youth do these substances is that they are illegal. It's almost funny to watch them make a big deal about smoking cigarettes these days because they cost so much that they are bootlegged in. But, there is kind of a canyon under us where there used to be some kind of social support. Wisdom? that's lame anymore.
No, not good at all.
It boils down to being lucky and having two troopers I know on duty when the guy does something.
Unfortunately, I have no idea when they are on, and I don't get to see them except in passing for a quick "Hello".
Matter of fact, they'd be two I'd trust to help out with my daughter if it had come down to it.
Nausia isn't common, but it's still a potential side effect. See http://www.erowid.org for all the real info with no spin attached.
I had a neighbor who looked like that crack pic.
Scared the bejeebers out of me.
She always asked, "Can I borrow a cigarrette offen you?"
(I think she meant 'from', but that is beside the piont.)
I dunno if the guy ate too much beforehand, we all had been scarfing down pizza before he and two friends started with the pot, and I don't know if he'd eaten before the pizza either.
Was quite gross to smell afterwards too.
Broccoli and white cheese pizza second time around just doesn't go well as a visual or olfactory event.
Oh believe me, I know what they are...you don't get them from smoking pot unless you constantly drink too much alcohol to cure the cottonmouth.
If it's any hope, there was a family we went to church with a few years back. Eventually, it became clear that we wasn't going to make it through high school. He quit, got in trouble with the law, and a judge sent him to a "boot camp" of some kind. He came out of that and started to get his act together. He got a GED and tried to join the Marines, but they wouldn't take him because of his dope smoking past. He ended up in the Army. He grew up seemingly "overnight" in the service and found something he cared about more than himself. He made it into the Rangers and served in Iraq and Afghanistan.
He was in that big offensive in Fallujah. In Afghanistan, he received a Purple Heart and some other commendations. He apparently covered the retreat of his 4-man recon team when they were ambushed. After being shot twice in the arm and chest, he manned a SAW with the good arm and hand and fended off 40-odd Taliban for four hours until air support came and took the rest of the bad guys out. The dang kid ended up being a war hero.
There's hope yet. The key seems to be removing the kid from the peer group. Sell your house and move. Put the kid in military school. He's worth whatever sacrifice you make for his good.
Makes some sick sense to the politicians and the 'youth services' people here in my section of Ny.
(NY Youth Diservices considering the Christopher Gardener event and similar happenings.)
But my method of making the point to the kids will work for most, but the constabulary has a cow over it.
(Delaware alley school had a car sitting out front that some kids had died in, still had blood puke and skin bits on it, and the smell was overpowering. Car was removed after some people went ballistic over it.)
The guy I saw with the DT's liked his 151.
Also swore he could drive while turned to jello.
Miracle he didn't kill anyone while driving home.
He died of a non-alc related heart attack.
One wonders how the heck he managed that as everyone expected him to get alc poisoning.
"He grew up seemingly "overnight" in the service and found something he cared about more than himself"
That's a Purpose Driven Life!
I noted that he did come from a family you went to church with. That probably gave him a good foundation.
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I have helped many crack users in the past try to overcome their addiction, including my hubby who has been clean for 17 years, we were not married at that time. You couldn't tell it by looking at him unless you know the signs {e.g. white scars on the neck}. Others that I tried to help, however, did not have the will to quit and went back to the streets, some I never saw again. It was really sad when there were children involved, I raised the daughter of one addict and arranged adoptions for others. However, I still believe that pot is not a gateway drug and therefore it is not helpful to bring hard drugs into a discussion about pot.
What I described was what cured me from even wanting to try it.
They weren't contemporaneous, I probably should have mentioned that, but it was what cured me.
Orange County NY has it's share of crack addicts, and they get there through many differing paths.
Some of the local teens think that ecstasy is a good 'pick-em-up' for make out parties.
The local 'score card' of 'cleaned up' former crack addicts isn't so good, the success rate is abysmal.
Worse still, the junk seems to be quite easily available.
There is a guy who deals in Hanneford's parking lot, and another who works in Toys R Us of all places.
Still another 'works' out back of Shoprite near me.
The lady I mentioend had once been quite pretty, and her daughter showed a bit of a glimpse of what her mom had looked like before.
Not a darn thing I could do help, it pretty much was a "not our department, our program doesn't do that" circle fest.
I cannot describe or explain how powerless I felt to do anything to help in that.
Probably explains how I feel about scaring the daylights out of kids so that they don't even think about trying it.
Lies won't work.
Marijuana has a bad rep. I feel sorry for the kid.
If they went through a state-run program, I can understand that...some of those programs are crap. I found that the best place to find dealers is in a neighborhood where those rehabs are...the patients there are easy prey. I used a more personal approach since I live out in the country...I brought them out there where they couldn't get anything unless they wanted to walk 30 miles, LOL! Lots of love, getting them to realize their potential and leading them to faith helped as well.
Isolation works wonders I am told.
Though here is getting to be less and less isolated.
One has to head several hours north to the Adirondacks for isolation of any useful size or amount.
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