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Raids in 6 states may be largest ever (ICE & Homeland Security make 'SWIFT" move.. 1,282 arrests)
AP on Yahoo ^ | 12/13/06 | Jennifer Tanhelm - ap

Posted on 12/13/2006 11:32:02 AM PST by NormsRevenge

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To: sean327

See post 44.


61 posted on 12/13/2006 12:43:30 PM PST by Bonaparte
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To: NormsRevenge

I'm sure the ones they caught yesterday are already loose in the streets and the busses for today got out of sight and let this batch go!These will go down the road,hire out as farm workers and spread more e-coli.


62 posted on 12/13/2006 12:46:35 PM PST by INSENSITIVE GUY
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To: Portnoy

Not that I condone businesses who hire illegals...but from what I have heard these people arrested are also suspected of identity theft...the company can run ss# and the names match. I don't know the answer to all of this but deporting this lot is a good start..and jailing those who have stolen honest hard working american's identities, so they can milk the sacred cow...is also a good start.


63 posted on 12/13/2006 12:53:35 PM PST by leenie312
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To: Bonaparte
The feds notified Swift a month in advance that the raids were coming.

They tipped them off. I read the article at http://www.alipac.us/

64 posted on 12/13/2006 1:01:52 PM PST by janetgreen (SAD FOR AMERICA)
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To: Bonaparte

"Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said Wednesday the investigation uncovered a "disturbing front" in the war against illegal immigration, in which illegal immigrants are using the identities of U.S. citizens to obtain jobs."

Someone please tell me that this joker is NOT really this dense!

Common sense is no longer found in appointees and politicians.


65 posted on 12/13/2006 1:04:28 PM PST by sheana
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To: Bonaparte

"Why wasn't Swift charged?"


That's the million dollar question. Smoke and Mirrors never do much damage. Maybe We should check out their political contributions.


66 posted on 12/13/2006 1:07:15 PM PST by wolfcreek (Please Lord, May I be, one who sees what's in front of me.)
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To: NormsRevenge
The raids at Swift & Co. plants across the country resulted in 1,282 arrests, including 1,217 on immigration charges and 65 on criminal charges such as identity theft.

I'll bet DHS got an anonymous tip.

67 posted on 12/13/2006 1:08:00 PM PST by AF_Blue ("Give her hell from us, Peeves." - Fred Weasley)
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To: ASA Vet

That is beautiful! How many does it seat? Can it get the job done from Colorado, or does it have to be right at the border?


68 posted on 12/13/2006 1:08:02 PM PST by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: sean327

"That last statement is a laugher, how can they complain to the courts that these raids will hurt their business if they don't knowingly hire illegals? They complained about the raids because they know their workforce is made up in large part by illegals. The CEO and the rest of the leadership of Swift need to pay steep fines and spend time being Bubba's girlfriend in prision. Until the Govt makes an example of these traitors, this crap will keep on happening. Swift is lying through their teeth, and everyone knows it, but they will continue to be allowed to play this deadly game."



You're right on the money. The government sure made an example of Enron, why not these guys at Swift? Aren't they causing damage and pain and suffering to Americans by their deceptive business practices? How much money is lost to those people who had their identities stolen by these illegals? This just infuriates me!


69 posted on 12/13/2006 1:09:00 PM PST by FarRightFanatic
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To: AmusedBystander

No, unfortunately, following the law is never simple for some folks.

In this case it should be. All they have to do is produce a valid verifiable birth certificate. Same as your example of the underage kid at the liquor store.

Having kids born in the US while the parent is an illegal does not make them immune from deportation.

If you claim you were born in the US, you'd have to have a very good reason why you can't lay your hands on that type of documentation.


70 posted on 12/13/2006 1:13:32 PM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: sheana
Michael Chertoff said Wednesday the investigation uncovered a "disturbing front" in the war against illegal immigration

Does this mean it's official? There really is a war against illegal immigration?

71 posted on 12/13/2006 1:14:34 PM PST by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: ASA Vet

The judge could ask them if they want to go home the easy way or the hard way.


72 posted on 12/13/2006 1:16:17 PM PST by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: sheana
Exactly. Illegals can easily purchase every kind of false identification, from driver's licenses to social security cards/numbers to birth certificates to green cards. That's been going on for a long time. They can use these documents to vote, to obtain employment, to get bank loans and government hand-outs of all kinds.

And it's all at our expense. What a racket! I've often thought that if I just switched to Mexican citizenship and slipped across the Rio Grande, I'd finally be a first class US citizen and live on easy street forever. In fact, if I could prove that I was here illegally, the President himself might even take my personal calls and write glowing letters of recommendation for me.

73 posted on 12/13/2006 1:18:53 PM PST by Bonaparte
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To: NormsRevenge

lol, she can go home with them.


74 posted on 12/13/2006 1:23:26 PM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: Dixie Yooper

Well, if there is a "war on illegal immigration" it has been just about as effective as the "war on drugs".


75 posted on 12/13/2006 1:26:10 PM PST by sheana
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To: wolfcreek

Board of Swift & Co.

Joe Colonnetta, a director of Swift Operating:

http://www.newsmeat.com/fec/bystate_detail.php?st=TX&last=colonnetta


George Gillett Jr., Chmn. of Board:

http://www.newsmeat.com/fec/bystate_detail.php?st=CO&last=Gillett&first=George


Edward Herring, a director of Swift Operations:

http://www.newsmeat.com/fec/bystate_detail.php?st=TX&last=Herring&first=Edward


Just a few....the Pres/CEO Sam Rovit had only a $300 donation to something called the "Swift & Company Political Action Committee."


76 posted on 12/13/2006 1:28:07 PM PST by FarRightFanatic
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To: FarRightFanatic
"... sure made an example of Enron"

Funny you should mention Enron. Swift is owned by a company that has extensive interest in (among other things) energy.

If the feds were serious about this, raids would be conducted so often that they would no longer be front page news. Targets would be the largest employers of illegals in food processing, construction and other industries. Fines would be just this side of extreme and executive imprisonments would be lengthy and commonplace.

In sum, we would eventually get our country back but at the price of short- to intermediate-range economic downturn and loss of investor confidence. It would take statesmen to make such a choice and unfortuntely we don't have any, just short-sighted, main chance politicians.

Solutions to all this will have to come from "we, the people," not government.

77 posted on 12/13/2006 1:33:16 PM PST by Bonaparte
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To: Tenacious 1

according to what I have come across, there are 30 million of them here, the 1200, or so is a drop in the bucket.

I will believe progress is being made when they stop making home loans and so forth to these folks, and when the welfare money is in surplus instead of being drained constantly.


78 posted on 12/13/2006 1:34:47 PM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: NormsRevenge

dport hector angel too.


79 posted on 12/13/2006 1:35:52 PM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: wolfcreek

it was an issue of identity theft, and not illegal employment, so the swift co, gets off swift free.


80 posted on 12/13/2006 1:37:55 PM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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