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Let not kid ourselves, we are at war. It easy to demand perfect standards when you are not at war.

Are we at war or not? That statement doesn't make sense. Unless, of course, you're trying to stay that I don't know what I'm talking about because I'm not an OEF/OIF vet. In that case, you do make sense, but you're wrong.

Seems to me the people who scream loudest about "The American people need to realize we are at war and make sacrifices" should not also then turn around be the same people trash talking every single issue related to the war.

Seems to me that there's nothing wrong with asking the American people to realize we're at war and to make some sacrifices. Like, serving their country when they're at an age that it will be the most help.

I think it's the patriotic duty of young Americans to enlist and fight for their country, not sit back playing Xbox while single mothers and folks old enough to be their parents go to war instead.

You seem to think it's the patriotic duty of Americans to shut up and follow the leader. That's fine for a nation of cheerleaders, but a sad departure from what America should be.

So other than yapping on the Internet, what are you actually doing to solve the problem, SW?

I see a lot of griping and moaning from you, and accusing more positive people of being 'cheerleaders,' but what do you think you're accomplishing here?

My son signed up before 9/11, and almost all his friends did AFTER 9/11. This generation is filled with patriotic kids who want to defend their country against evil, because they love America and want to keep us safe.

What is your point in belittling them, and continuing to dismiss what's really going on in the military?

I really want to know. What's made you so cynical and negative?

You seem to think it's the patriotic duty of Americans to shut up and follow the leader. That's fine for a nation of cheerleaders, but a sad departure from what America should be.

Thanks for summing that up in an articulate way. A way I have forever failed to do. In my mind, the men and women who are in uniform deserve the best plan, the best thinkers, the best stregy we can possible offer. I know how extremely important I felt, when I knew the civilians stateside were actively engaged and interested in the mission...even if it was a mundane deployment. When I perceive things to be going, "not right" I feel we are doing a disservice, if people don't speak up.

if any of that makes sense, it probably doesn't.