[Paul Ross]

I see you've still been unable to explain away the fact that we make more today than at any other time in our history

You can't prove we do. More ships? No. More planes? No. More computers? No. More trains? No. More steel? No. More what is being built precisely?

other than your usual obfuscation and data dump two stepping.

You're practicing projection again, I see.

Your portfolio of explanations rivals that of Clinton himself.

Xlinton is your Globalist Free Trade exponent deluxe. He's on your side.

So since you are aligning with him...I don't think you've any credibility in your casual attempt to rhetorically smear the conservative position as "Clintonian".

Talk about "obfuscation"...I was dead on about you.

[oceanview]

the stats are skewed because so many things count as "manufacturing" - that you wouldn't think of as finished goods. I believe electricity is part of manufacturing output, well of course we make more of that with our increasing population. and we have to manufacture foodstuffs to feed that population.

to really see what is going on, the data needs to be stripped of all these inconsistencies. we lose almost the entire furniture manufacturing industry to China, but some factories crank up "manufacturing" of laundry detergent and other consumer non-durables, as automated pumps fill more plastic bottles with it, and the numbers hide that.

[lucysmom]

Xlinton is your Globalist Free Trade exponent deluxe. He's on your side.

Who stood, looking on in approval when Clinton signed NAFTA?

[Mase]

More what is being built precisely?

Start here:

...I don't think you've any credibility in your casual attempt to rhetorically smear the conservative position as "Clintonian".

So, after all that, you still have no answer for the graph showing that we manufacture 80% more than Japan and 129% more than China every year? You still have no proof that all those cheap inputs are destroying our manufacturing infrastructure?

As for what we make...I'll let you prove that the $1.79 trillion we made last year is all smoke and mirrors. Standing by......