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Shares drop for products made in U.S.
The Philadelphia Inquirer ^ | Thu, Dec. 07, 2006 | Bob Fernandez

Posted on 12/12/2006 8:10:42 AM PST by A. Pole

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To: 1rudeboy

Are they flowing back to you or anybody you know?


61 posted on 12/12/2006 10:46:05 AM PST by Irisshlass
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To: 1rudeboy
That can be easily solved by a trip to your local Toyota dealer, where you can look at the federally-mandated domestic content sticker on each auto.

Do you support such federal mandates?

62 posted on 12/12/2006 10:46:23 AM PST by A. Pole (Mandarin Meng-tzu: "The duty of the ruler is to ensure the prosperous livelihood of his subjects.")
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To: Irisshlass
Where are the profits except in the pockets of a few shareholders.

But those shareholders hire people to clean their pools, mow their lawns, make their beds and watch their children, so it all works out.

63 posted on 12/12/2006 10:47:07 AM PST by lucysmom
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To: Toddsterpatriot

yeah, and Paulsen and Bernanke are in China now only because they wanted some good general tso's chicken. rather, they are begging them to deal with their currency peg, because in addition to losing massive manufacturing and technology industry investments being made there, instead of here, we are losing control of the dollar too.

But hey, have a party - everything is just fine.


64 posted on 12/12/2006 10:47:26 AM PST by oceanview
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To: lucysmom

sure, if you want an $8/hr service job cleaning pools and mowing lawns for the elites.


65 posted on 12/12/2006 10:48:12 AM PST by oceanview
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To: Irisshlass

he knows people at Goldman Sachs I am sure - they just announced their AVERAGE employee bonus today - $622,000.


66 posted on 12/12/2006 10:49:11 AM PST by oceanview
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To: 1rudeboy
George W. Bush won without the Reagan Democrats. Twice.

Are you sure?

67 posted on 12/12/2006 10:49:29 AM PST by A. Pole (Mandarin Meng-tzu: "The duty of the ruler is to ensure the prosperous livelihood of his subjects.")
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To: A. Pole
Do you support such federal mandates?

No. Thank your friends at the UAW.

68 posted on 12/12/2006 10:50:27 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
Burden of proof is on you.

No, it's a burden squarely and fairly on you.

I already pointed out the M3 numbers travesty. That pretty much says it all.

As for your Toyota Camry numbers, as solitary examples, don't establish any legitimate counter-point. You need to see the forest for the trees.

China is planning on flooding the U.S. with cars soon. It is already flooding the parts market.

69 posted on 12/12/2006 10:51:26 AM PST by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: oceanview

I love the smell of class warfare in the morning.


70 posted on 12/12/2006 10:51:33 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Paul Ross
No, it's a burden squarely and fairly on you.

I refer you to your comment #30, well upstream from mine. Nice try.

71 posted on 12/12/2006 10:53:05 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: oceanview
Watch out! Someone will accuse you of class envy and of promoting class warfare. (We're not supposed to notice those things)
72 posted on 12/12/2006 10:53:58 AM PST by lucysmom
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To: lucysmom

But those shareholders hire people to clean their pools, mow their lawns, make their beds and watch their children, so it all works out.


Yeah illegal aliens that make $7.00 an hour or less, no benefits and the money goes back to Mexico to take of their families. You're right it all works out.


73 posted on 12/12/2006 10:54:13 AM PST by Irisshlass
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To: lucysmom
If Honda, Toyota, Mazda, and Nissan can all establish manufacturing plants in the US and produce a quality product while making a profit, perhaps its time to stop blaming government and labor

These plants are usually in low tax, nonunion states, so I'd say blaming government and (union)labor is exactly the right thing to do.

74 posted on 12/12/2006 10:54:23 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (If you agree with EPI, you're not a conservative!)
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To: Irisshlass
YOU are the one that brought it up where is your analytical study to back up with you said?

No. Again, your comment, "Just like the Republicans just won the House and Senate again without the Reagan Democrats," upstream from mine.

75 posted on 12/12/2006 10:55:48 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: lucysmom

I'm accusing you of engaging in class warfare as well. There, glad that's out of the way.


76 posted on 12/12/2006 10:56:56 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Toyota has three unionized plants in California. The rest pay comperable wages and benefits.
77 posted on 12/12/2006 10:57:04 AM PST by lucysmom
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To: Mase
I see you've still been unable to explain away the fact that we make more today than at any other time in our history

You can't prove we do. More ships? No. More planes? No. More computers? No. More trains? No. More steel? No. More what is being built precisely?

other than your usual obfuscation and data dump two stepping.

You're practicing projection again, I see.

Your portfolio of explanations rivals that of Clinton himself.

Xlinton is your Globalist Free Trade exponent deluxe. He's on your side.

So since you are aligning with him...I don't think you've any credibility in your casual attempt to rhetorically smear the conservative position as "Clintonian".

Talk about "obfuscation"...I was dead on about you.

78 posted on 12/12/2006 10:58:09 AM PST by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: lucysmom
Toyota has three unionized plants in California. The rest pay comperable wages and benefits.

Interesting.

But they likely don't have a Pension fund cliff hanging over them. The advantage of a comparatively recent start-up.

Demographics is history.

79 posted on 12/12/2006 11:02:39 AM PST by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: Irisshlass
Everyone in America needs to quit their jobs and become shareholders?

I don't think you should be a shareholder. If you did, you might be able to retire one day with enough money to support yourself.

80 posted on 12/12/2006 11:04:25 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (If you agree with EPI, you're not a conservative!)
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