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A generation is all they need: One day we will all happily be implanted with microchips
Toronto Star ^ | Dec. 10, 2006. | KEVIN HAGGERTY

Posted on 12/12/2006 6:04:15 AM PST by ActionNewsBill

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1 posted on 12/12/2006 6:04:22 AM PST by ActionNewsBill
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This was foreseen in the movie The Presidents Analyst- TPC (The Phone Company) was plotting to chip everyone on the planet. There was a little clip that parodied Hemo The Magnificent, a school film about hemoglobin.

This was back in 1967!
2 posted on 12/12/2006 6:09:24 AM PST by DBrow
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Why on earth would you want to track everybody when all you need is the capability to follow a handful of troublemakers.

The rest can be dealt with quite adequately with sensing arrays that can instantly identify the DNA trail they leave behind.

3 posted on 12/12/2006 6:10:52 AM PST by muawiyah
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No thanks!


4 posted on 12/12/2006 6:13:43 AM PST by popdonnelly
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"By the time my four-year-old son is swathed in the soft flesh of old age, ..."



Dont worry long before that such a system will prove not just a waste of money but detrimental as hackers will cause the system to endlessly crapout and ordinary people will have the socialists who tried to impose such a system hanging from lampposts.

Of course I am talking about the USA, and those in other countries not caring about their own freedom and the burdens placed upon them by their socialists masters can go on pretending that they benefit and open such impositions with open arms.
5 posted on 12/12/2006 6:14:36 AM PST by wodinoneeye
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"And that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark" Revelation 13:17

This chip idea holds terrible concequences. I do belive that the chip mentioned here in the article will be used in conjuntion with an identifeier that will be the mark of the beast foretold in the book Revelation in the Bible
6 posted on 12/12/2006 6:14:52 AM PST by CMS (When injustice becomes law ---- rebellion becomes duty)
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They are already implementing things like this with livestock.


7 posted on 12/12/2006 6:14:59 AM PST by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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They are already implementing things like this with livestock.

The elites who run the world already think of the rest of us as livestock anyways, so it makes sense that they would like to control us in much the same way.

8 posted on 12/12/2006 6:19:38 AM PST by ActionNewsBill ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act")
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Crisis de Jour.....the micro chips in my dogs only tell where they are not what they are doing just as the GPS on most cars tell where you are, not what you are doing. The plus side of this voluntary action is that little Johnny lost in the mountains can be found or little Mary is missing from her yard may be found before some pervert kills her.

Somebody needs to get a life.........

9 posted on 12/12/2006 6:23:23 AM PST by yoe
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This was forseen quite a long time ago. Then it was called the "Mark of the Beast", When free men ,,,,,


10 posted on 12/12/2006 6:25:26 AM PST by Citizen Tom Paine (An old sailor sends we need a 800 ship Navy.)
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I'm with Bill on this one. The selling points you listed are nice, but all technology has the two-edged thing going on. Humans love to manipulate other humans. I'll stay unchipped, thanks...


11 posted on 12/12/2006 6:25:48 AM PST by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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...the micro chips in my dogs only tell where they are not what they are doing...

So you don't have a problem with all citizens being tracked like pets or livestock?

12 posted on 12/12/2006 6:26:58 AM PST by ActionNewsBill ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act")
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Sam Adams best summed it up when he said," If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands that which feed you. May your chain be set lightly upon you and posterity forget ye were our countrymen."
13 posted on 12/12/2006 6:27:14 AM PST by Issaquahking (Trust can't be bought)
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It will start with a lie about "protecting the children". Then the elderly. Then adults. Then it will monitor our location. Then it will monitor our speech. Then the fascists posing as politicians will be happy.


14 posted on 12/12/2006 6:28:35 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: AD from SpringBay
Humans love to manipulate other humans.

And governments love to control their subjects.

I'll stay unchipped, thanks...

Same here.

It's frightening to see FReepers who are on board with this kind of abomination.

15 posted on 12/12/2006 6:29:12 AM PST by ActionNewsBill ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act")
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To: CMS

How is a micro chip the "Mark of the beast"?


16 posted on 12/12/2006 6:30:39 AM PST by Risha (Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God)
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To: ActionNewsBill
If you use a cellphone and or a computer they already know where you are.
17 posted on 12/12/2006 6:32:30 AM PST by Risha (Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God)
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I'm troubled by chipping as much as you, but it's not the "Mark of the Beast". The Bible clearly states that such a mark MUST be in the right hand or forehead of a person. Chips such as the ones discussed here would not be placed in the hand (either side) or forehead for simple reasons: hands can be cut off, and there's no place "in" the forehead to put a chip. (It's just a thin layer of muscle and skin over bone.) Most likely, biometric monitoring chips would be placed somewhere within the torso -- behind the navel, for example. And since the navel (etc.) is not the right hand or forehead spoken of in Scripture, any chip there cannot be the Mark of the Beast.

That doesn't make chipping any less troubling, of course. I hate to admit it, but even I can see advantages to having little kids and old people chipped. As of now, however, I reject the idea -- not on theological grounds, but because I find the idea repugnant to human dignity. Human beings should not be inventoried like property.

I'm no theologian, but it seems obvious to me that the "Mark of the Beast" must be a spiritual mark, since receiving it instantly damns the recipient to eternal punishment. "Taking the Mark" has to be something more than a chip -- is a conscious declaration of allegiance to Hell. (Besides, if merely "taking the Mark" sends a person to Hell, why wouldn't the Antichrist simply forcibly chip everyone?) I don't know exactly how it will work, but I seriously doubt that St. John of Patmos had a computer chip in mind when he wrote the Apocalypse. The whole "rapture" thing isn't part of orthodox Christian teaching anyway.

Instead of worrying about THE End Times, we should all concentrate on the fact that our own PERSONAL "end of the world" can come at any time. THAT is the Apocalypse we need to be concerned with. God will take care of the big picture -- our job is to follow Christ now and leave the future to itself.


18 posted on 12/12/2006 6:35:51 AM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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"It's frightening to see FReepers who are on board with this kind of abomination."

But not surprising, given that we know a certain segment of the people here will support every nanny-state idea that comes along. Smoking laws, drug laws, speed cameras, no-knock raids, asset forfeiture, all of that - they don't care, 'cause they don't think any of it affects them, only the "bad people" they imagine are lurking in every shadow. Until it does...


19 posted on 12/12/2006 6:51:03 AM PST by -YYZ-
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To: B-Chan
The Bible clearly states that such a mark MUST be in the right hand or forehead of a person.

As devices (cell phone, blackberry, iPod, etc.) get smaller, I'm expecting sensors to be embedded beneath fingertips in the near future. That way, you can "type in mid-air" to access the "buttons" on your devices. It will be like Sign Language and there will be customizable movements to "pick up the phone", etc. Today, everyone has their own stupid ring-tone. In the future, some folks will answer their phone by some silly hand gesture -- because they saw some musician do it at an Awards show.

This will be a flashy, cool way to de-sensitize people to the whole idea of having microchips implanted in their body.

20 posted on 12/12/2006 6:51:53 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agamemnon dead.)
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