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"Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war."

In World War II our fire bombings of Germany and Japan killed many more civilians than military personnel. This was the application of methodical terrorism. It worked. We won they lost.

Any war you fight that is fought on the terms of the enemy is a war you will lose. Our enemy does not see us as noble because of our rules of engagement. They think we are weak and stupid because of our rules of engagement. In this war if it looks suspicious, kill it! Otherwise, we are the ones that will die. The logic behind a war may be noble but the execution of war is not noble. It is deadly and brutish. All wars have errors in which civilians die, and soldiers die because of friendly fire. We must accept this and destroy the enemy or we will lose.

The civilian population of Iraq is the jungle the enemy hides in. They will protect our enemy until they are more afraid of us than the enemy. As River Rat says, "if you are not willing to kill your enemy and all that stand with him, surrender to him for you have already lost."

"Cry havoc, and let slip the dogs of war."

It seems the firebombings may not have affectd the course of the war itself. Studies have shown that there was no reduction in the production of war materiel in Germany after the firebombings. What was accomplished was the defeat of the population. It was necessary to stun and defeat the population for the occupation to accomplish the transformation of the whole system to democracy. The same result occurred in Japan, though there the nuclear attacks did, indeed, also directly end the resistence.

In World War II our fire bombings of Germany and Japan killed many more civilians than military personnel. This was the application of methodical terrorism. It worked. We won they lost.

an 'A-bomb Truman' is needed; we need leadership which doesn't cave to liberal's ideas for prosecution of war to bring the diaperheads to their knees-FAST. loosin masses of civilians will wake up those "moderate" elements to kill their own vermin.