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To: Tinman
People who wish to understand this enemy should read the Koran for themselves. They will draw the same conclusions as I... A peaceful Muslim is a nonpracticing Muslim and therefore, an "infidel" just the same as a Jew or Christian. According to the Koran that is...

Therefore, only those who answer the call of Jihad are seen as "real" Muslims. That's the problem...

As for Christian scripture, your argument is made most often by non-Christians. Christians realize that those particular scriptures are found in the Old Testament, before Christ. You won't find these ideas in the New Testament, after Christ walked the earth.

Christianity, Judaism and Islam share the Old Testament. The New Testament belongs to Christians, the Koran is the New Testament of Islam and the Jews are still waiting for theirs...

Know what I mean?
180 posted on 12/13/2006 3:02:30 PM PST by PlainOleAmerican
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To: PlainOleAmerican
Yes, I do know what you mean. I'm also aware that the general points of scripture that I mentioned are from the Old Testament.

Allow me to clarify the point I'm trying to make. I've already stated that you have me at a disadvantage. I have not read the Koran. Therefore, I have no knowledge of specific verses or passages, to which you refer.

I agree that a Christian who lives only by the New Testament would not preach hate or violence. However, isn't there a "Christian" pastor who travels around with his flock, promoting death to homosexuals, based on verses from Leviticus? Yeah, I know, Old Testament, but they still profess to be "Christians", do they not?

And what of the Crusades? Weren't they all undertaken in the name of Christianity? Then there was The Inquisition, backed by "the Church", wasn't it? Then we have Ireland, where two Christian groups have perpetrated violence against one another for how long now?

No, I'll stand by what I've said. I believe "religion" is once again being used as an "excuse" to gain power and control. I'll grant you, those Muslims who are willing to sacrifice themselves believe they are following the Koran because they've been convinced (indoctrinated, brainwashed, or ???) that it is the word of the Prophet and/or Allah. But who convinced them? Who sends them out on their suicidal missions to murder innocents? The day that I see one of the terrorist "leaders" strap a bomb to themselves, is the day I'll believe they are motivated only by a devout belief in Islam. Till then, I'll continue to agree with my young friend from Pakistan.

Regards

183 posted on 12/14/2006 5:37:34 PM PST by Tinman (Yankee by birth, Texan by Choice..."Support the Troops" shouldn't be just a bumper sticker)
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