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To: Hetty_Fauxvert; All

I too have known a fair number of gay and bisexual people over the years. I would also say that at least in gay bars there are 3 times as many bisexuals as there are purely homosexuals.

When training with a noted psychiatrist in New York, he was asked about his views on homosexuality. First of all I should mention that his methodology involved working in groups of people with people pairing up and holding one another while releasing very intense emotions of pain, fear and anger. First of all he said he was restricting his observations to homosexuals who had come into therapy because they were unhappy with their lives, their sexual orientation or both. He did not claim to speak for gays who were not unhappy with their lives.

He said that most cases involved a situation in which there were intense feelings of pain, fear or anger regarding the opposite sex parent; or feelings of deprivations and longing for the same sex parent. He believed that warmth, love and affection from both parents was essential to normal development including sexuality. He also felt that cases were able to shift their sexuality more or less easily depending on whether the primary trauma was deprivation vs. pain/fear/anger.

I had a man join my group who was upset because he had acted out a few times in mens bathrooms. He was in his 40's, divorced, and had recently met a woman he felt he could be seriously interested in. He was the youngest of 5 children, the rest of whom were girls. I asked him what kind of attention he had from his father. He said his father was so busy and tired, that he got very little attention or affection. I had him work with my husband or another older man in the group. They would hold him as he closed his eyes and said things like "Daddy, love me," "Daddy, pay attention to me," "Daddy, see me too." When saying these things he would often burst into tears and cry for a long time while being held. About 8 sessions later he came to me and said he would no longer be coming to the group. I asked why, and he said he felt he understood his acting out, and was going to move in with the woman. Two years later I ran into him and they were still happily together.

Although faith in God and love of Jesus can help many people, there are others for whom that approach does not work. It is just as possible to help people work on their sexual issues without involving religion. Those who are not comfortable with religion should not be forced to become religious to get the help they need.

Regarding early childhood development, it is also very important that mothers be comfortable with their children's sexuality. If a child senses that their opposite sex parent is bothered about sex, this can influence their feelings negatively. As Dobson's article pointed out, many fathers suffer from certain inadequacies that can impact their sons negatively. If the child is showing gender identity issues, it may be important for the parents to seek guidance and therapy before the child can be helped.

Regarding genetic predispositon, I concur that it is probably unlikely. However, one thing that can happen is that stress on the mother can cause changes in her hormones that can have an influence on the unborn child. In centuries past, the comfortable classes sometimes went out of their way to protect pregnant women (confinement). We would do well the give our pregnant women more support and reduce their stress levels. We might find they give birth to fewer feminized boys, and masculinized girls as a result.


15 posted on 12/11/2006 2:19:44 AM PST by gleeaikin
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To: gleeaikin; Hetty_Fauxvert; freespirited
However, one thing that can happen is that stress on the mother can cause changes in her hormones that can have an influence on the unborn child. In centuries past, the comfortable classes sometimes went out of their way to protect pregnant women (confinement). We would do well the give our pregnant women more support and reduce their stress levels. We might find they give birth to fewer feminized boys, and masculinized girls as a result.

Fetal alcohol syndrome? Smoking pot? LSD? etc., etc....

Marijuana is the perfect chemical warfare agent for the feminization of men.

Recreational drug use has been chemical warfare waged against the young people of this country since the 1960s. The sex perverts, like the druggies, can only perpetuate an ever increasing market for their filth by molesting the minds and bodies of the young ones, including expectant teenage mothers...

36 posted on 12/11/2006 6:40:36 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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