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To: No.6
If one posits that "socially conservative" means "eager to have the government enact right-wing social controls" (a popular usage, whether or not it's accurate), it does not follow that "socially liberal" means "favoring less government in personal issues."

To the contrary, ask a libertarian if they want more laws proscribing what were lawful activities, e.g. tobacco smoking, etc.?

281 posted on 12/12/2006 8:54:41 AM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

Aaaa, you missed my point. I am certainly not saying that libertarians (large or small L) want more government involvement in personal choices.

What I'm saying is that the phrase "socially liberal" doesn't mean less government involvement in personal choices, but more government involvement in personal choices, just not the ones associated with the right.

For instance, a social liberal has no trouble supporting tobacco restrictions or trans-fat bans, but might support 'gay rights.' A libertarian would oppose tobacco/food nanny-statism and would realize that 'gay rights' are about being more equal, in the Orwellian sense.

The old classical meaning of liberalism is, unfortunately, quite dead, and only comes out of its grave to attempt to trick people into voting for Dem statists.


284 posted on 12/12/2006 9:14:33 AM PST by No.6 (www.fourthfightergroup.com)
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