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To: CurlyDave
As Libertarian for well over 30 years, I have been abandoned by the GOP, not the other way around.

How can a party that isn't the Libertarian party--and doesn't share the values of the Libertarian party, thank God-- "abandon" the voters of another political persuasion?

103 posted on 12/11/2006 3:41:31 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Immigration is to Illegal Immigration what Birth is to Abortion.)
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To: Darkwolf377; CurlyDave
So forget Libertarians, and libertarians, for just a minute.

What do you think about the huge increase in non-military spending during the last six years? Do you think middle-of-the-road swing voters see any hypocrisy in all the pork involved in that, and are turned off by that, especially when compared with GOP "small government" (empty, of late) rhetoric?

112 posted on 12/11/2006 3:54:33 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: Darkwolf377

How can a party that isn't the Libertarian party--and doesn't share the values of the Libertarian party, thank God-- "abandon" the voters of another political persuasion?
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Don't answer me right away. Just think about it or sleep on it tonight, OK?

I used to laugh or roll my eyes when I read about the parliamentary systems in other countries like Israel or some European countries. (even Iraq for that matter)

In order to form a governing coalition you have to have what seems like 145 different groups in your camp. Otherwise, they call for early elections and chuck you out the door. It seemed silly.

Than I thought about it for a while. That is essentially what we have here in the USA. You will never fit 300 million people under one of two umbrellas. It's the same deal here.

Did you ever read Ryan Sager's book "The Elephant in the Room: Republicans, Libertarians and the Battle to Control the Republican Party."

If you're interested, I'll post the first chapter for you.

The point is, as a fellow Reagan/Goldwater conservative we would be very lonely and powerless without other factions to vote us into office.

You can argue and complain all you want, but that's just the reality.


256 posted on 12/11/2006 8:57:40 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 ("Life is tough. It's tougher when you're stupid."--John Wayne)
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