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Why Would Gays Want Children?
Townhall ^ | 12/10/06 | Kevin McCullough

Posted on 12/10/2006 2:01:49 PM PST by wagglebee

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To: Sunsong

Nanny state conservatives or nanny state liberals. They just want to regulate different behaviors. Sin is real. We are free to choose though. That is what makes abstaining from sin worthwhile. The Talibornagain don't get it. The beauty of acting morally is the choice, not the lack thereof.


421 posted on 12/10/2006 6:29:43 PM PST by dogbyte12
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To: Burkean
Isn't it possible that couples who struggle with infertility are doing so because God is saying "You two don't need to be parents"? If they've waited too long because they were focused on a career, or if they neglected their health and perhaps exposed themselves to diseases that have made it impossible to bear children, why should they be trusted with children?

Maybe G*d's saying that they should be content with adopting children and loving them as their own.

422 posted on 12/10/2006 6:30:30 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (“Don’t overestimate the decency of the human race.” —H. L. Mencken)
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To: onyx
Well, I could have become gay myself and actually did consider it at one time. No, I'm not joking or being sarcastic. My mom was a lesbian, and I was raised in home that had gays people at our home all the time. I didn't think it was such a bad thing at the time being that I was just a kid (twelve years old). I loved the gay people dearly (still do), and they all treated me well and never did anyone try to make a move on me or try to lead me into this lifestyle. As I said, I love gay people, and many of them are good friends of mine. However, I have also seen gay people come out of the lifestyle, and all of the ex-gay people I know are living happy productive lives, some married and some not.

I find it quite puzzling as to how anyone can come to the conclusion that a homosexual cannot be cured, especially since I have friends who used to be gay but no longer are. I can give you a lot of evidence to back this up, but from reading your posts it doesn't appear you are interested in facts, you simply want to believe the lie you have been told. I'm sure you mean well, but there is plenty of evidence to refute what you say. I know this for a fact because I live among these people.
423 posted on 12/10/2006 6:31:06 PM PST by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense, don't you wish everybody did?)
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To: dogbyte12
I am not getting the love the sinner, hate the sin here.

Mainly because that is nowhere to be found in the Bible. NOWHERE...

424 posted on 12/10/2006 6:32:59 PM PST by LowOiL ("I am neither . I am a Christocrat" - Benjamin Rush)
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To: scripter
because people were saying we only had biblical arguments against homosexuality.

The most striking observation is that according to Lev and Acts by implication, God holds all nations accountable for sexual immorality.

425 posted on 12/10/2006 6:33:08 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: therut

Excellent post you wrote on # 400!


426 posted on 12/10/2006 6:33:30 PM PST by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense, don't you wish everybody did?)
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To: dmw

I believe they are bisexual. That's how. I am referring largely to males. I can see where some females may have a hatred for men, particularly if they've been abused.


427 posted on 12/10/2006 6:33:52 PM PST by onyx (I'm now a minority and victim of the democrats, but with full and free entitlements!)
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To: bvw; All

Quote from the Gay Liberation Manifesto (1972, revised 1978), someone just posted it for our edification:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1751204/posts?page=1

COMPULSIVE MONOGAMY. We do not deny that it is as possible for gay couples as for some straight couples to live happily and constructively together. We question however as an ideal, the finding and settling down eternally with one 'right' partner. This is the blueprint of the straight world which gay people have taken over. It is inevitably a parody, since they haven't even the justification of straight couples-the need to provide a stable environment for their children (though in any case we believe that the suffocating small family unit is by no means the best atmosphere for bringing up children.


428 posted on 12/10/2006 6:35:07 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird

I don't want them settling in blue states, for that matter. As more and more of them settle there and get naturalized, there will be more liberal Congresscritters. We surely don't need that.


429 posted on 12/10/2006 6:35:55 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (“Don’t overestimate the decency of the human race.” —H. L. Mencken)
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To: dmw

We can't get too detailed here, but in generalities, most straight men cannot even fathom preforming oral sex on another man. How could one be forced to become gay? The reverse is true too.


430 posted on 12/10/2006 6:36:09 PM PST by onyx (I'm now a minority and victim of the democrats, but with full and free entitlements!)
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To: dogbyte12
Nanny state conservatives or nanny state liberals. They just want to regulate different behaviors. Sin is real. We are free to choose though. That is what makes abstaining from sin worthwhile. The Talibornagain don't get it. The beauty of acting morally is the choice, not the lack thereof.

What a wonderful statement. You've packed a lot in a few words!

Yeah, if you look at the political continuum as a circle instead of a straight line - the far left and the far right are right beside each other. And they do exhibit a lot of the same traits and tactics. It's fascinating!

I love the term: Talibornagain. May I use it?

The similarities between the *purists* here and the *purist* Islamists are striking. Neither has any use for personal choice and I really think that they don't understand it. I don't think that someone can comprehend something that is beyond their current capabiltiy - if you know what I mean :-)

431 posted on 12/10/2006 6:36:21 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: rintense

Facts are important. You can choose to believe whatever you want, but you can't refute the facts.


432 posted on 12/10/2006 6:36:25 PM PST by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense, don't you wish everybody did?)
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To: Sunsong
Nice try. I'm saying that the electorate regected the gay-bashing, holier-than-thou, condemning, punitive attitudes that are so much on display on this thread.

No, they didn't. They rejected the Republicans perverting their own small-government ideals, and they rejected the situation in Iraq.

433 posted on 12/10/2006 6:41:13 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (“Don’t overestimate the decency of the human race.” —H. L. Mencken)
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To: Howlin

No doubt, gay, lesbian, and straight persons are the result of the unity of an egg and a sperm. People often make snarky comments when they find out how many children hubby and I have. Things like "haven't you figured out what causes that yet" are common. Well duh. I guess Mary and Heather figured it out, too.


434 posted on 12/10/2006 6:41:14 PM PST by petitfour
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To: onyx
"How could one be forced to become gay? The reverse is true too."

You keep repeating this but you offer no evidence to back it up. Saying because something is true one way, that makes it true the reverse way too is not a very good argument. You can believe anything you want, but it doesn't make it factual.
435 posted on 12/10/2006 6:42:00 PM PST by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense, don't you wish everybody did?)
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To: petitfour

People are so thoughtless.


436 posted on 12/10/2006 6:42:20 PM PST by Howlin (40 days to Destin!)
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To: rintense
A tear drop and the Pacific Ocean are the same to you. Both salty water. To you it is immaterial the amount of water -- no one should care.

What brilliance we have on Free Republic with such logicians as yourself!

437 posted on 12/10/2006 6:42:28 PM PST by bvw
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
They rejected the Republicans perverting their own small-government ideals, and they rejected the situation in Iraq.

The elephant in the room.

438 posted on 12/10/2006 6:43:21 PM PST by Wormwood (Everybody is lying---but it doesn't matter because nobody is listening)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Your opinion nd my opinion differ.


439 posted on 12/10/2006 6:43:25 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: Sunsong

So, you're implying that you're a liberal in a red state, then? If so, why not come here to Maryland. They'd love to have you.


440 posted on 12/10/2006 6:43:26 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (“Don’t overestimate the decency of the human race.” —H. L. Mencken)
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