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Now Labour 'will tax your parking spaces'
The Daily Mail (UK) ^ | 12/9/06 | SIMON WAL

Posted on 12/10/2006 12:24:08 PM PST by kiriath_jearim

Millions of householders face paying a tax of hundreds of pounds a year for parking their cars outside their homes, in council tax changes introduced by the Government, the Tories claim.

Shadow Local Government Minister Caroline Spelman claimed officials have been ordered to include the value of street parking in a national review of council tax bands.

She said it means that homes in suburban and urban streets could find their council valuations increased by several thousand pounds. If that moves them into a higher band, they could expect to pay an average of £250 extra a year.

The move follows claims that the Government is to increase council tax for people in "nice" neighbourhoods or with pleasant views, as well as charge them for the number of bedrooms and lavatories, conservatories and even rabbit hutches.

A Commons written reply by Local Government Minister Phil Woolas said that the new computerised system for calculating council tax in the future would take account of parking.

The Valuation Office Agency would decide the value to a property of "on-street parking, the number of garage spaces and off-street parking".

Ms Spelman said: "This proposal is complete nonsense. It gives no consideration to whether you use the parking space. It is totally unfair to people who don't own a car.

"And it is just as bad for those who do own a car but can't park outside their house because someone else has already taken the space. In some cases, having a parking space is a disadvantage if it attracts abandoned cars and causes a nuisance.

"And yet this Government wants to force such householders to pay more regardless. This absurd system of council tax changes is being run from a desktop computer in an office miles from anywhere, with no thought given to whether the reforms are practical.

"It is just another Labour stealth tax which will affect many people in urban and suburban Britain. Labour is determined to tax Middle England in every way it can think of. Now they are taxing people on things they don't even own."

But Mr Woolas accused Ms Spelman of scaremongering.

"There is nothing new in this," he said. "All that is happening is that we are moving from manual to computer records. It has always been the case that the value of a home included whether or not it had parking space.

"It has always been taken into account and it it is quite right that it should be so."

The Conservatives, however, insisted the change was significant.

"There is no doubt that the Government wants to implement big increases in council tax charges for millions of average households," said a Tory official.

"The small print in the Chancellor's Pre-Budget Statement showed they intend to put up council tax by billions in the next few years to fill the black hole in their spending plans.

"The Valuation Office Agency survey is being used as a cover to mask the Government's true intentions. They want to punish homeowners by prying into every aspect of their private lives and squeeze more money out of them."

Ministers have rejected claims that they have given valuation officials the power to force their way into homes to check property details. And they deny that the review allows the use of satellite technology to find out if people have built extensions.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: govwatch; taxes
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1 posted on 12/10/2006 12:24:10 PM PST by kiriath_jearim
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To: kiriath_jearim

"If ya walk too much they'll tax your feet".


2 posted on 12/10/2006 12:30:00 PM PST by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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To: MadIvan

ping*


3 posted on 12/10/2006 12:32:08 PM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: kiriath_jearim
....don't follow leaders, watch the parkin' meters
Bob Dylan
'Subterranean Homesick Blues'
4 posted on 12/10/2006 12:32:26 PM PST by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: bill1952
It's a recalculation of property value based on parking spaces.

The word is "shakedown". Local government in Britain has been trying to find new ways of raising revenues all the time.

Regards, Ivan

5 posted on 12/10/2006 12:34:06 PM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: Joe Boucher

Artist: The Beatles Lyrics
Song: Taxman Lyrics

One, two, three, four...
Hrmm!
One, two, (one, two, three, four!)

Let me tell you how it will be;
There's one for you, nineteen for me.
'Cause I’m the taxman,
Yeah, I’m the taxman.

Should five per cent appear too small,
Be thankful I don't take it all.
'Cause I’m the taxman,
Yeah, I’m the taxman.

(if you drive a car, car;) - I’ll tax the street;
(if you try to sit, sit;) - I’ll tax your seat;
(if you get too cold, cold;) - I’ll tax the heat;
(if you take a walk, walk;) - I'll tax your feet.

Taxman!

'Cause I’m the taxman,
Yeah, I’m the taxman.

Don't ask me what I want it for, (ah-ah, mister Wilson)
If you don't want to pay some more. (ah-ah, mister heath)
'Cause I’m the taxman,
Yeah, I’m the taxman.

Now my advice for those who die, (taxman)
Declare the pennies on your eyes. (taxman)
'Cause I’m the taxman,
Yeah, I’m the taxman.

And you're working for no one but me.

Taxman!


6 posted on 12/10/2006 12:34:32 PM PST by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Joe Boucher

............and if you breathe too much?


7 posted on 12/10/2006 12:36:14 PM PST by americanbychoice2
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To: kiriath_jearim
Let me tell you how it will be,
There’s one for you, nineteen for me,
‘Cos I’m the Taxman,
Yeah, I’m the Taxman.
Should five per cent appear too small,
Be thankful I don’t take it all,
‘Cos I’m the Taxman,
Yeah, I’m the Taxman.
If you drive a car, I’ll tax the street,
If you try to sit, I’ll tax your seat,
If you get too cold, I’ll tax the heat,
If you take a walk, I’ll tax your feet.
Taxman.
‘Cos I’m the Taxman,
Yeah, I’m the Taxman.
Don’t ask me what I want it for
(Taxman Mister Wilson)
If you don’t want to pay some more
(Taxman Mister Heath),
‘Cos I’m the Taxman,
Yeah, I’m the Taxman.
Now my advice for those who die,
Declare the pennies on your eyes,
‘Cos I’m the Taxman,
Yeah, I’m the Taxman.
And you’re working for no-one but me,
Taxman.
8 posted on 12/10/2006 12:37:07 PM PST by samtheman (The Democrats are the DhimmiGods of the New Religion of PC)
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To: kiriath_jearim

"We just need it to pay for that "Free Lunch" you have been feasting on all these years...."


9 posted on 12/10/2006 12:43:11 PM PST by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: MadIvan
And they deny that the review allows the use of satellite technology to find out if people have built extensions.

They already do this here in the states. You blokes better get with the times. (sarcasim)

As for the parking they have started doing that here recently as well. They tax us for water shed. That is they tax us per square foot for rain water run off of our roof and paved areas on our property. This supposedly is for the treatment of storm water run off and the preservation of creeks and rivers.

10 posted on 12/10/2006 12:45:03 PM PST by Pontiac (All are worthy of freedom, none are incapable.)
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To: Vaquero

One very appropriate song.


11 posted on 12/10/2006 12:45:06 PM PST by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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To: MadIvan
The word is "shakedown". Local government in Britain has been trying to find new ways of raising revenues all the time.

And, as for all governments everywhere, they find the concept of restraining expenses to be obscene

12 posted on 12/10/2006 12:47:36 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the arrogance to think they will be the planners)
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To: SauronOfMordor
I live in an area where Conservative votes are weighed by the kilo rather than counted. Even so, the council does stupid things.

Power corrupts.

Regards, Ivan

13 posted on 12/10/2006 12:48:53 PM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: Pontiac
Mrs Ivan and I are worried about the green movement - not just because it's bad policy, but because it's an excuse for higher taxes. We're going to put in as much energy saving items as we can, vote properly and hang on until the fad passes.

Regards, Ivan

14 posted on 12/10/2006 12:50:12 PM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: MadIvan
Ivan, if things get too tough their, have you and the Mrs. thought about moving to Australia??? It can't possibly be any more expensive.

Personally, I don't see how the Brits have any extra money for anything other than the bare neccesities, considering how heavily they are taxed on just about everything, with even more taxes to come.

15 posted on 12/10/2006 12:55:55 PM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: Pontiac

Classic! Taxed for the rain water that falls on your property...

wonder how many goons it took to come up with that one?


16 posted on 12/10/2006 12:55:56 PM PST by Will_Zurmacht
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
We won't move. This is our country - for better, for worse.

If it gets worse, we'll work to make it better. But it will survive.

Regards, Ivan

17 posted on 12/10/2006 12:58:56 PM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: kiriath_jearim
Similar tax schemes led to the destruction of the UK motorcycle and auto manufacturing industry in the 1970s.
18 posted on 12/10/2006 1:27:08 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: Will_Zurmacht
wonder how many goons it took to come up with that one?

535 plus 1. There were the Yeas and nays of course. Your US House and Senate at work.

19 posted on 12/10/2006 1:31:13 PM PST by Pontiac (All are worthy of freedom, none are incapable.)
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To: MadIvan
It's a recalculation of property value based on parking spaces.

Is the British tax system based on fair market value at all? At least where I live, and I assume in most of the US, taxes are based on the putative value of the property, based on the sale prices of comparable houses in the area.

There is, of course, controversy in determining which homes are "comparable." My house is overvalued, because the "comparable" houses in the neighborhood have all been renovated before they were sold, and I still have the original plumbing, old wiring and no central a/c. I plan to have an independent appraisal or two and appeal the valuation next year.

Do homes with available parking sell for more than homes without? If so, I'd expect that to be built into the appraisal. If not, not. Reading between the lines, and admitting my ignorance of the UK system, it seems that they might just be adding parking access as a factor in which homes are comparable to which -- and if that's the case, I'd expect the valuation of homes without parking to go down (or go up more slowly).

If these changes make the tax valuation more accurately reflect the actual value of the property, they're fair; if not, not. I can't really tell which is the case from this article.

20 posted on 12/10/2006 1:31:18 PM PST by ReignOfError
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