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CA: Droves say goodbye to Golden State
Mercury News ^ | 12/10/06 | Mike Swift

Posted on 12/10/2006 10:28:48 AM PST by NormsRevenge

Wayne Brown gave up $40,000 in income to move from the Bay Area to Kansas. And he feels great.

It got to be too much last year for the college information-technology officer: the commute to downtown San Francisco that sometimes took two hours, the housing-price spiral and the high-wire borrowing that paid for it.

``I would find myself sitting in traffic,'' Brown recalled, ``screaming at people.''

When the Kansas job came up in early 2005, Brown and his wife, Teresa, sold two Bay Area homes and happily settled in a suburb of Kansas City. They have never looked back.

The Browns are an example of what demographers say appears to be an unprecedented phenomenon -- even in a good economy, more people are leaving California for other states than are arriving from the rest of the country.

Between 2004 and 2005, the migration flow into California from the other 49 states started flowing the other way. Data from the state Department of Finance shows that, for the first time this decade, more people left California in 2005 for another state than the number who moved in. Mary Heim, a finance department demographer, says this particular kind of outflow will continue for the foreseeable future.

Unlike the tens of thousands who left Silicon Valley following the tech bust earlier this decade, the new migration is about the quest for something besides a job: a better quality of life at a lower cost of living.

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... California's population of 37 million people is still growing, because of a surplus of births over deaths and because of foreign immigration.

(Excerpt) Read more at mercurynews.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: 2bsayingbyeoon; caexodus; california; crimigration; droves; foreigninvasion; goldenstate; goodbye; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; invasionusa; landoffruitsandnuts; thirdworldstate
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball

Therein lies the reason for JD's loss... too many libs in Tempe, thank goodnesss they are still in pockets here and not all over the state.


121 posted on 12/10/2006 1:46:24 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

I'm not trying to bash Texas- there are a lot of laws in Texas I wish we had in California, and I'm glad for Texas' electoral votes. I just get sick of hearing how California is just one big left-wing utopia. The reality is a lot more complex than that.


122 posted on 12/10/2006 1:46:29 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: ReagansShinyHair

I still have one sister there, here kids are in college and she can't leave right now, though she's certainly like to. Everyone else has moved to Arizona.


123 posted on 12/10/2006 1:47:18 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: carolinalivin

As long as they stay on the other side of the COlorado River.


124 posted on 12/10/2006 1:47:49 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: nickcarraway

"The reality is a lot more complex than that."

With only one statewide office holder in the Republican Party?


125 posted on 12/10/2006 1:49:31 PM PST by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: mzbzybee

Glad to hear conservatives are coming here, we're growing and I just hope it's people like fellow Freepers who are coming.


126 posted on 12/10/2006 1:50:23 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Syntyr

Have you noticed the instructions on a box of Bisquick are in English and Spanish now?


127 posted on 12/10/2006 1:51:22 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: CORedneck

Unfortunately, I think Colorado was ripe for a lot of Northern California liberals to move there to "save the forests" like they've been doing in NoCal for so many years.


128 posted on 12/10/2006 1:52:28 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: RobbyS
We have learned to conserve water, I heard a year or so ago that even with almost double out population we were still using about the same amount of water.

The problem right now is the ongoing drought, without some of the large lakes we'd all be in a world of hurt West of the Rockies, yet the California Environmental groups have been trying for ten years to take out one of our major dams and clean power producers.

It's an ongoing fight and they thought two years ago they were winning because the drought had drawn both Powell and Mead under 1/2 full.. yet, if it wasn't for Powell Mead would have gone dry and with it not only the water, but the power from both dams. Thank goodness year before last we had a good winter and it helped, a lot, but last year the winds dehydrated the snow in the Spring and heaven knows what this year will bring.

SoNevada is the one with the biggest problem because they have the smallest allocation from the Colorado.

129 posted on 12/10/2006 2:00:02 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: NormsRevenge

I bailed out last summer. Not to a "cheaper" are to live, but Hawaii is actually not as expensive by a small margin. No heating bills, solar hot water, sales tax is 1/2, proterty tax less than 1/2, etc. Yeah, the politics are disgustingly liberal, but I knew that. Traffic can be bad, but no one is an @sshole like 2 out of 3 in SoCal. Calif. is in a downward spiral fueled by real estate greed, socialists running the capitol, and being taxed to death to fund illegal aliens.

Grew up there 40-50 years ago, glad to be rid of what it has become.


130 posted on 12/10/2006 2:03:52 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: marajade

Well, I guess it's just that simple to you.


131 posted on 12/10/2006 2:05:24 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: NormsRevenge

I consider it pollution of the rest of the nation. They have screwed up one state; now they want to screw them all.
The first thing you hear from them is, "That isn't the way we did it in California." They wouldn't be so bad if they would STFU. Stay Home in the mess you created.


132 posted on 12/10/2006 2:07:10 PM PST by Steamburg (If we don't want our nation bad enough to protect it, it won't be ours long.)
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To: La Enchiladita
but then came a huge wave ... HUGE ... of Yuppies from New York.

I remember that, mid 70's, right? All of a sudden there were NY license plates everywhere in in the south and southwest areas of San Fernado valley. Sickening NY accents every time you turned around. Beginning of the end..........Politics took a sharp left turn right after that.

133 posted on 12/10/2006 2:10:02 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: NormsRevenge

I recently rented a Uhaul trailer to bring some items from Montana to California. It cost about $75 one way. If I were to reverse the trip, the trailer would have cost about $490. Needless to say Uhaul is smiling.


134 posted on 12/10/2006 2:16:31 PM PST by Godzilla (JESUS - The REASON for the SEASON)
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To: SoCal Pubbie
" California has become a Third World sewer."

Ah yes, that old chestnut!

Walked down the Santa Monica Promenade lately?

135 posted on 12/10/2006 2:20:05 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: radar101

I hope it works for you.


136 posted on 12/10/2006 2:25:03 PM PST by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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To: RobbyS
How is Arizona going to keep growing without water?

I don't know. But it's time Arizona started issuing visit visas to visitors and work visas to those seeking employment. As for the southern border, it will be nice to have it lined with polonium 210.

137 posted on 12/10/2006 2:26:20 PM PST by HarmlessLovableFuzzball
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To: NormsRevenge

Please, stay away from Texas.


138 posted on 12/10/2006 2:26:54 PM PST by devane617 (It's McCain and a Rat -- Now what?)
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To: Arizona Carolyn
too many libs in Tempe, thank goodnesss they are still in pockets here and not all over the state.

These aren't just libs, they are outright wackos.( I guess all libs are wacko to some degree). When I overhear stuff like a certain world leader deserves to be assassinated, I can only laugh to myself and shake my head.

139 posted on 12/10/2006 2:33:00 PM PST by HarmlessLovableFuzzball
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To: Plains Drifter
The first thing this lady from New York said to me upon arriving was "I can't understand why you people need all these guns."

She's got it exactly bassackwards.

New York City is the place where they need all those guns.

Unfortunately, the fiefdom of upstate New York is full of decent serfs with some guns but ruled by socialist scoundrels from the Nottinghams in the big cities. They are desperately outnumbered by the rich, mouthy crowd and therefore unable to hold on to most of their diminishing rights. So, don't let these loudmouths from downstate move in and take yours like they have theirs.

140 posted on 12/10/2006 2:38:32 PM PST by Gritty (People who write laws for my own good are more dangerous than a truck full of cigarettes-S. Sebelius)
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