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The Barbarians at the Gates of Paris
City Journal ^ | '02 | Theodore Dalrymple

Posted on 12/09/2006 7:24:02 PM PST by T.L.Sink

The following morning, the police came to collect him, and he asked them what kind of place this was. Why was everything made of concrete? 'But don't you know where you are monsieur?' they asked. C'est la Zone, c'est la Zone!' La Zone is a foreign country: they do things differently there.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: cites; crime; eurabia; france; immigration
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This is a prophetic and riveting essay written before the recent Islamic riots that shook France. Like so many of Dr.Dalrymple's best articles it's based on first-hand personal experience. I was prompted to post this because of some good comments and posts on the zones. And it explains to us as much about the French as it does of them!
1 posted on 12/09/2006 7:24:03 PM PST by T.L.Sink
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To: LibreOuMort

Comment?


2 posted on 12/09/2006 7:30:51 PM PST by sionnsar (?trad-anglican.faithweb.com?|Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: T.L.Sink
Posted two times already. Posted Nov 3, 2006

Posted Oct 24, 2002

3 posted on 12/09/2006 7:40:17 PM PST by Aliska
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To: Aliska
Wrong link on second one. October 24, 2002
4 posted on 12/09/2006 7:42:35 PM PST by Aliska
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To: T.L.Sink

Mutatis mutandi, Detroit, and soon, America.

Recently a Mexican woman beat up an American woman outside a store for "looking at her wrong." The American complained to the security guard, who blamed the American. That was in Phoenix, in a good part of town.

I was standing in line at an IHOP in Phoenix when a short Mexican man tried to start something with me. I ignored him but waited before I left the restaurant. The Mexican woman major domo was incensed that it happened.

Coming to a town near you, soon.


5 posted on 12/09/2006 7:52:41 PM PST by sine_nomine (Don't let another Bush lose another Iraq war.)
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PC driven 'Justice' system leads to national decline.....

When (not if) there is a reactionary backlash its going to be messy and no doubt cause a huge whine from the US libtard community in the US (Nazi analogies will fly like a hailstorm).
6 posted on 12/09/2006 7:56:12 PM PST by wodinoneeye
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To: sine_nomine
Mutatis mutandi, Detroit, and soon, America.

Recently a Mexican woman beat up an American woman outside a store for "looking at her wrong." The American complained to the security guard, who blamed the American. That was in Phoenix, in a good part of town.

I was standing in line at an IHOP in Phoenix when a short Mexican man tried to start something with me. I ignored him but waited before I left the restaurant. The Mexican woman major domo was incensed that it happened.

Coming to a town near you, soon.



Tell all your friends to buy guns and be ready for the Libtard created stupidity to come to a head...
7 posted on 12/09/2006 7:58:50 PM PST by wodinoneeye
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To: sine_nomine

Right- our invasion is encouraged by special business interests who love those cheap wages with no basic benefits and by politicians from both parties pandering for votes.

Every serious study has proved that the illegal tsunami costs us far more than they contribute to the economy. By the way, did you catch Dalrymple's mention of multiculturalism as a contributing factor to the eventual ruin of every society that is controlled by PC thought?


8 posted on 12/09/2006 8:23:45 PM PST by T.L.Sink
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To: T.L.Sink

bump for later


9 posted on 12/09/2006 9:17:33 PM PST by lesser_satan (EKTHELTHIOR!!!)
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To: T.L.Sink
"Indeed, the Germans have a saying, not altogether reassuring for the French: 'to live as God in France.'”

Indeed, the day is fast approaching when the French will long for such reassurance.

10 posted on 12/09/2006 9:58:20 PM PST by Savage Beast ("Just when the caterpillar thought the world was over, it became a butterfly.")
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To: T.L.Sink

How many times I have walked--alone and with my wife--through the streets of Paris and many other French cities and towns at all hours of the night and day with never an incident. Ah youth--but I betray my age!


11 posted on 12/09/2006 10:12:17 PM PST by Savage Beast ("Just when the caterpillar thought the world was over, it became a butterfly.")
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To: sine_nomine

Maybe Mexico won't want as much from me in taxes(?)


12 posted on 12/10/2006 3:29:52 AM PST by The Duke (I have met the enemy, and he is named 'Apathy'!)
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To: T.L.Sink

I did not catch that, but that is like saying water is wet.

By the way, I finished an MA recently. One required course was in multi-culturalism.


13 posted on 12/10/2006 7:11:16 AM PST by sine_nomine (Don't let another Bush lose another Iraq war.)
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Antagonism toward the police might appear understandable, but the conduct of the young inhabitants of the cités toward the firemen who come to rescue them from the fires that they have themselves started gives a dismaying glimpse into the depth of their hatred for mainstream society.

Hubby is a retired firefighter (recent) who worked in a 97% hispanic town (alot of illegals). They were issued bullet proof vests. Their station was the target of a drive by shooting. There is an area of bars, the firefighters call it "The Iron Triangle", that when they would drive through the alley the people would throw beer bottles at the truck.

So glad he retired. This is closer to reality than many people think.


14 posted on 12/10/2006 8:27:03 AM PST by sheana
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To: sheana

I have no sympathy or compassion for cop-haters. When people get away with antagonism toward our safety forces, society begins to crumble. I agree with Luther - the state weilds the sword for the common good. Sometimes bad things happen, but I would rather have too much enforcement than too little.

Societal transformation has resulted in a new set of rules about right and wrong, everything turned upside-down. France is the canary in the coal mine. We are doomed to follow if things do not change. They will not change under the banner of compassionate conservatism or RINO bi-partisanship.


15 posted on 12/10/2006 9:27:19 AM PST by sine_nomine (Don't let another Bush lose another Iraq war.)
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To: sine_nomine; sheana

I think one of the most poignant sentences Dalrymple made in his essay is this: "...an effective police force is as vital a guarantee of personal freedom as a free press and that the thin blue line that separates man from brutality is exactly that: thin."

Of course, the police sometimes fall short of professional standards. Who doesn't? But the point is that in our PC society we've done too much to render them impotent and ineffective in their efforts to maintain safety and security in the public domain.

If either of you would like me to send you a story of how this happened to the LAPD, please advise. Regards,


16 posted on 12/10/2006 4:22:46 PM PST by T.L.Sink
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To: T.L.Sink

I read this four years ago when it came out. I sent it to a business colleague, who is unfortunately a typical liberal. She was outraged by the "tone" of the article. Balderdash. Now, of course, people know that Dalrymple was right on target.


17 posted on 12/10/2006 4:43:26 PM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: Savage Beast

I walked through Paris alone at night in 2000 and everything was OK, more or less, in the center of the city. I don't know if that's still true today.


18 posted on 12/10/2006 4:44:53 PM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: T.L.Sink

I'm in Phoenix. We are not far gone yet, but it may happen.


19 posted on 12/10/2006 5:28:15 PM PST by sine_nomine (Don't let another Bush lose another Iraq war.)
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To: T.L.Sink

A Paris suburb named a street for murderer Mumia Abu-Jamal.


20 posted on 12/10/2006 5:42:51 PM PST by Tribune7 (Conservatives hold bad behavior against their leaders. Dims don't.)
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