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Withdraw to Victory?
HumanEventsOnline ^ | Dec 08, 2006 | Patrick J. Buchanan

Posted on 12/09/2006 4:28:51 PM PST by NapkinUser

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1 posted on 12/09/2006 4:28:53 PM PST by NapkinUser
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Is this what they call "realism"?
If the MSM had a shred of journalistic integrity left, they'd be publicly ridiculing the claim that these surrender monkeys are "realists".

But the MSM has no journalistic integrity. And so the USA gets fed a steady diet of lies about how these walking cadavers --- counseling defeat and surrender --- are "realists".

2 posted on 12/09/2006 4:32:51 PM PST by samtheman (The Democrats are the DhimmiGods of the New Religion of PC)
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The US will not retreat from this war unless a Democrat wins the Presidency in 2008. We shall see if that bad fate occurs.

Congressman Billybob

Latest article: "The Report of the Nazi Study Group"

3 posted on 12/09/2006 4:33:49 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com Please get involved.)
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For it is the definition of a superpower that once it commits itself to a war, it does not lose the war.
As much as I dislike Buchanan, I have to admit, he's got this part right.
4 posted on 12/09/2006 4:36:07 PM PST by samtheman (The Democrats are the DhimmiGods of the New Religion of PC)
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Buchanan getting scared as he should be

Be happy Pat --Israel is going down also


5 posted on 12/09/2006 4:41:25 PM PST by uncbob (m first)
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Gee, I'm confused. Exactly what is Pat proposing? I thought that he supported exactly what the ISG recommended. Of course, it will lead to exactly just what he says. Anyone who thinks that Iraq will magically fix itself if we pull out is hallucinating.

So what is the solution? Par of the problem is that they don't fear us. Putting Al Sadyr's head on a stick would help. But I know we won't.


6 posted on 12/09/2006 4:45:07 PM PST by rbg81 (1)
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"Units lack leadership. ... Units lack equipment. ... Units lack personnel. ... Units lack logistics and support."

These are the folks who are going to win the war we could not win, after we depart?

The final result. The US military is not the policeman to the world, it shouldn't be part of any nation rebuilding effort, and its not going to be successful in spreading democracy to the entire Islamic world.

The Iraqi`s have to step up and take control. NOW!

7 posted on 12/09/2006 4:51:41 PM PST by Reagan Man (Conservatives don't support amnesty and conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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buchanan another jimmah carter antisemetic jsut like baker....pat is more than glad america won't support the war and troops....then like his brethern including the isg...they can all blame Israel and the Jews together!!!!


8 posted on 12/09/2006 4:52:38 PM PST by hnj_00
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"For it is the definition of a superpower that once it commits itself to a war, it does not lose the war."

Nah Pat. The only way we can lose is to continue to stay there and die of a thousand cuts. We didn't lose by getting out of Vietnam.

Americans are not convinced that the Islam threat is sufficient to draft 15,000,000 military, pull Rosie the Riveter out of the office and go on the assembly line, start gas rationing, put the tax cuts into war bonds and install price controls.

Well Pat Americans are right. There is nil to fear from people who use suicide car bombs, steal planes, and combined do not have a world class military anything. When Bush I was in charge these nations were on our side against Saddam. Maybe when Bush II ends his term things can be restored to what they once were. Alarmists serve no purpose.

9 posted on 12/09/2006 4:58:52 PM PST by ex-snook ("But above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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So anyone who has any questions about why the U.S. is still in Iraq automatically hates the Jewish people and Israel? Come on.


10 posted on 12/09/2006 5:01:50 PM PST by NapkinUser (Tom Tancredo for president of the United States of America in 2008!)
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The Iraq Study Group: Is this not an insult to common sense?

The Iraq Study Group: an American Dien Bien Phu?

Our days as a superpower will be over.

Well, lets just say that the New Democrat Third Way progressives, the consequence of the New Left coup that destroyed the traditional, patriotic Democrat Party, have a major step closer to "Bring it all down, man!"

The humiliation for the U.S. forces (imposed again! by Washington, not the result of any deficiency in the field) will be complete. The hippy bastards got 'em again.

Now this vanguard party will turn its efforts to submit our forces to an international command to fight the "war on terrorism." We'll be lucky if we keep our sovereignty.

Finally, the biggest threat to world peace (that'd be us) will be under control. Praise the vanguard party of elite, anointed ones tired of waiting for us dumb ass workers to unite and revolt -- the vanguard party is doing it for us. Thanks a lot, VP.

11 posted on 12/09/2006 5:17:03 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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For it is the definition of a superpower that once it commits itself to a war, it does not lose the war.

This country has never fully committed to it. One day, we will be forced to fully commit.

12 posted on 12/09/2006 5:22:25 PM PST by expatpat
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Maybe when Bush II ends his term things can be restored to what they once were. Alarmists serve no purpose.

Ummnn I guess 9/11 never happened and we would have stayed out of Afganistan ( Iran causing problems there also)

With Iran on the move gaining nukes etc just what would Saddam have been doing --watchful waiting--Saudis looking at the Iranian Nuke situation and getting very nervous

The whole ME was heading for a big blow and that isn't even looking at the Israel situation
Yep nice and stable over there
13 posted on 12/09/2006 5:36:06 PM PST by uncbob (m first)
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Are we to believe that rag-tag army is going to win a war the finest army on earth has all but lost?

One of the key points of this article is wrong... The "finest army on earth has all but lost" is NOT correct. The problem isn't with the military, but with the civilian leadership, and unfortunately, it's about to get a lot worse. But the military COULD get it turned around, if we were to have a change in policies, similar to how we won WWII, and how we imposed the peace on the losers. We can still win the war. They question is, do we have the political will to win it?

Mark

14 posted on 12/09/2006 5:37:52 PM PST by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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Americans are not convinced that the Islam threat is sufficient to draft 15,000,000 military, pull Rosie the Riveter out of the office and go on the assembly line, start gas rationing, put the tax cuts into war bonds and install price controls.

Gas rationing may happen but forget about Rosie the Riveter unless she wants to go to China to work

Arsenal of democracy that was self sufficient except for rubber ( but nylon was introduced ) WE AIN'T anymore
15 posted on 12/09/2006 5:42:58 PM PST by uncbob (m first)
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The "finest army on earth has all but lost" is NOT correct.

You have a point. After defeating Saddam Hussein army the policing was needed. And you cannot police if you do not speak language. Just cannot.

Five years was enough to master the language.

16 posted on 12/09/2006 5:44:29 PM PST by A. Pole ("Truth at first is ridiculed, then it is violently opposed and then it is accepted as self evident.")
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"So anyone who has any questions about why the U.S. is still in Iraq automatically hates the Jewish people and Israel? Come on."

You are one of the few on FR that understands Buchanan. Simply because he doesn't blindly support everything Israel does, many FReepers call him a bigot.

I challenge any FReeper to produce one bigoted statement Buchanan has made. Criticism of the Israeli government doesn't count.
17 posted on 12/09/2006 5:45:35 PM PST by BW2221
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Your question will never be answered.


18 posted on 12/09/2006 6:04:17 PM PST by NapkinUser (Tom Tancredo for president of the United States of America in 2008!)
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Pat's two favorite causes: give up on Iraq, give up on Israel - not in that order.


19 posted on 12/09/2006 6:18:08 PM PST by popdonnelly
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Withdrawing from Vietnam =

Pictures of a vietnamese Re-Education Camp

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1308949/posts

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20 posted on 12/09/2006 6:20:02 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com.`)
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