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One thing that fascinates me, is that for many FReepers, the legal-regulation issue is the only one worth discussing. ("Such-and-such is legal, right? OK. End of discussion.") Isn't it possible to talk about ethics, values, cultural trends and society from any aspect other than legality?

Oh it is not only possible, but mandatory. However my position is that what Mary Cheney does or does not do with her life is quite frankly between her and whatever God she perceives to be relevant to her life. If the Bible is (as I believe it to be) a literal document presenting God's Word and His Will for humanity, Mary Cheney and millions upon millions of homosexuals in this world are heading for an eternally fatal wakeup call. How God chooses to deal with them will be Just, Fair, and Perfect.

Not to mention tragic.

As Christians, we are obligated to point out the Scriptural Truths as revealed in God's Word not only on subjects like homosexuality, but in all areas of life. We are far from perfect, we as humans have our own faults and flaws within us, but if we trust in Christ and believe in Him and His Blood sacrifice made in our behalf upon the Cross, our sins and our shortcomings are covered. Literally. God has promised this. We will continue to live imperfect lives until our corrupt flesh gives up the ghost and we enter Eternity reconciled with Almighty God, not through any effort of our own, but through the Grace and Mercy of Jesus Christ, who died in our behalf - taking on what should be our rightful penalty of death for our sins against God.

But even living imperfect lives, yes - we are obligated to point out what is morally right and wrong, what is ethical, what is correct. If I point out something immoral and someone says to me "you can't say that, you hypocrite!", my response is "we are ALL hypocrites in one way or another, but my hypocrisy does not negate the fact that YOU are in violation of God's Laws. Even a hypocrite like me must speak the Truth."

But once we do that (and I am reasonably assured that Mary Cheney has heard more than a few Biblical arguments against her chosen life style), it becomes a matter between the individual preached to, and God Himself, i.e., it becomes "their private business" because only God sees fully the motives, intentions and contents of the human heart. HE will deal with Mary Cheney exclusively in the eternal scheme of things.

And a related question: howcome Mary Cheney can do articles, call-ins, interviews, books, and talk-shows ---- and when people try to respond, there's all this huffing and eye-rolling: "OMG, will you keep your nose out of her private business!!"

If she chooses to present her views in public forums, I see no reason not to engage those views, challenge those views, and refuse to yield one inch of the moral high ground.

Now this issue of Mary Cheney having a baby has prompted all sorts of demagoguery, much of it coming from conservative Christians, and in my online travels I happened to read the following screed by the illustrious 'Coach Dave Daubenmire':

http://www.ptsalt.com/blog/coach_dave/2006/12/dick_cheney_should_resign

Apparently the 'Coach' thinks that our Vice President is responsible for the actions of his adult daughter (which is NOT Scriptural based upon Ezekiel 18:20) and the funny thing is, I submitted a respective and polite feedback taking issue with his assertion that our VP should step down over this issue, citing the above Scripture, and I'm not surprised that my challenging his UN-scriptural position has been ignored.

Sorry, as the saying goes "alas I digress".

My position on homosexuality is that God is opposed to it, therefore I am too. He condemns it, as do I. But as Christians we are to hate the sin and love the sinner, and I continue to try and do that. Sometimes (often times) I fail miserably. But I keep trying. We are here to occupy until He Returns, not to fight a rear guard action and surrender territory to the enemy inch by inch.

How 'bout that Mrs. Don-O? ;)