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What libertine-arians really mean is:

We don't want the government (fed, state, county or municipal) placing any limits on sexual libertinism. We want the right to **** it if it moves. Or even if it doesn't, and we also want to have the right to never hear anyone criticizing us about our behavior.

That's what they really mean.

That's my take too, or as some have said in the past, "Libertarians are Republicans who want to legalize pot."

I know people are going to do what they are going to do, I'm not for prosecuting or persecuting Cheney's daughter or any homosexual, if they keep it private, well, that would be OK with me, but to force the agenda on society is wrong and also, we do have the right to voice our opinions on this issue since it is in the news. I know myself, I'm a product of a divorced marriage, it is a lot better if a child has a man and a woman as parents, believe me, I know what I missed.

I might be having a "Michael Savage Moment" here but although I oppose radical Islam tooth and nail, we in the West must face that challenge, but when one of them (or even if it is from a more "mainstream" Islamist) comment on the immorality of our society, when I see stories like this, along with many other perverted and twisted things, I can't really have a rebuttle against him, I'll just stand there looking like a stupid dork as I flub around.

I thank God that I know Him and Jesus, otherwise if I did not know Him and His Son, yet I was appalled at the immoral turn our society has taken in Western Europe and the U.S., Islam would look very good to me. In some ways, between the Moonbats on one side and the libertines on the other, most times, one of the same, we are just playing into their hands and making ourselves look bad by not standing up for ourselves or our way of life as it should be.

I'm not for burning anyone at the stake or throwing them in jail of they are same-sex couples and the like, but there are times we do need to enforce standards and we do have the right to make comments on what is wrong and try to show them the right way.

I certainly don't want homosexuals jailed or punished for private activities. I also don't want homosexuals allowed to adopt or foster children, nor should doctors be allowed any unmarried woman access to technical fertilization methods (which is another whole thing).

Homosexuals should not be allowed to corrupt children which includes adolescents in schools, nor should there be one single law offering them any special status or protection solely because they claim they are "gay".

Laws against public nudity, indecency and obscenity should be resurrected and enforced. So many beaches, parks, hiking trails (and what to speak of public bathrooms and rest areas) are off limits, unless you want to see men sodomizing each other. Why do they have special rights to be allowed do use public facilities as their sexual cruising grounds?

It's as though 2% of the population has the rest of us in thraldom. What is the reason for this?