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To: nopardons; Proud Legions; June Cleaver; paulat; Kozak
I don't really understand your logic.

I hope you don't mind me taking the liberty of attempting to spell it out more clearly.

Throughout history many children's lives have been completely horrific. In fact, many if not most children before the Victorian age lacked anything resembling a childhood. Because of this, research showing that children fare far better when raised in a two parent (that is, two married heterosexual parent) home is irrelevant. Why should societal advancement benefit children?

I think you would also do well to look in a history book. Our declaration of Independence states:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

Throughout most of history "Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness" were not granted the average man. I however would not argue that they are not "God given rights" just because historically they have not existed for many.

History is a fascinating subject.......I suggest that you learn some.

Perhaps research is wrong and kids do OK in a gay home. I could at least consider that argument. The kids be damned though... that one is a tough sell.

-paridel
389 posted on 12/09/2006 12:06:40 AM PST by Paridel
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To: Paridel
Many homosexuals and lesbians, in the past, have had heterosexual marriages and had children.

Sadly, many heterosexual parents have been/are lousy parents.

For the length and breadth of recorded time, children have grown up, and either turned out well; or not.

No matter HOW you want to twist the words of the DoI, nowhere in that wondrous document, does it claim, by any stretch of the imagination, that children have a GOD given or any other kind of given right to a mother and a father. And FYI.....Jefferson wanted it to read PROPERTY, not HAPPINESS. And since slavery was still part of the law of the land, some of those glorious words did NOT apply to everyone.

BTW, I never said that until Victorian times, all children's lives were horrific; though that was more true than you realize, for some. And the newly invented CHILDHOOD of the mid 1800s and early 1900s, only applied to some; not all and not even most children of that era.

457 posted on 12/09/2006 12:39:30 AM PST by nopardons
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