[Albion Wilde]

...the fringe aspect of the Republican party that believes moral laws should be established at the national level that's making it a big deal. The very idea is an affront to the vision the Framers had for this union of states.

You are totally, completely ignorant of our nation's history. Wishing will not make it the way you believe it was. The states, as was their right, had established churches, with compulsory attendance in many cases. Moral laws were passed and recognized because the population was 99% Christian.

[nopardons]

And a whole LOT of those laws were ignored by the so called "moral" people, from colonial times to the present!

And dollars to donuts, all of those here, who fantasize about the "good old days", wouldn't be able to survive them IF they could go back to the times they wistfully pine away for, without really knowing or understanding much of anything at all, as to how they REALLY were!

[billbears]

You are totally, completely ignorant of our nation's history.

Really? The Framers envisioned morality being legislated at the national level? Marriage laws? Church choices? At the national level? I suggest you go back and reread your copy of the Federalist Papers as well as the Constitution.

The states, as was their right, had established churches, with compulsory attendance in many cases.

Indeed and in many cases those state churches did exist after the Constitution was signed. No problem there

Moral laws were passed and recognized because the population was 99% Christian.

But they weren't passed at the national level because they were the business of the states under the 10th Amendment. My precise point. I am quite versed in the history of this nation of states so again I will state that the idea of legislating morality at the national level would be an affront to the Framers' vision