Mary Cheney's Pregnancy Affects Us All

Townhall ^ | December 7, 2006 | Janice Shaw Crouse PhD, Concerned Women for America

[Sunsong]

The reality for you to get over is: traditional Christian heterosexual parents are the vast majority of U.S. parents, and will continue to be for the foreseeable future.

What does that have to do with the fact that gays have children? There are far more heterosexuals than homosexuals. So it is, hopefully, obvious that the majority of parents in the US will be heterosexual. It is also a fact that many of them (the heterosexuals) will be lousy to really bad parents.

But that does not change the fact that gays are here to stay and they have kids and they raise them. You can condemn the idea all you want to - but it will not change the reality.

[Lurker]

How about everyone been happy for the Vice President that he has a grandchild on the way

Hey there's a thought. I'm sure VP Cheney was sure he would never have grandkids. Now he's been blessed with one.

But why not rip on the lesbians. It's far more fun to violate a couple of Gods laws regarding judging others so we can all feel much more Godly and superior than those nasty sinners.

And people wonder why I stay away from Churches....

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[Albion Wilde]

It's only a "canard" because you cannot refute it.

My post amply refuted it. Your posts fancy themselves Oscar Wilde. It's time for you to put your citation links where your mouth is.

[nopardons]

You've been here all of two whole days. Frankly, I doubt you'll last here much longer.

What do you want us all to do....drag Cheney out of her home and stone her to death? How about burning her at the stake? Perhaps putting her in the stocks and pelting her with rotten veggies is something to your liking.

America's cultural moral decline, and yes, there certainly has been one, is not Mary Cheney's fault and began long before she was born. So, just WHAT did YOU ever do to stop it in its tracks?

[durasell]

Mary Cheney's Pregnancy Affects Us All





Uh no, it really doesn't.

[Et in Arcadia Ego]

Too much, too much to bear... Nothing adequate can be said which can ease your pain and loss. You cannot replace the three human losses nor can you easily replace Max, your truest and dearest friend.

But I believe there are wonderful dogs out there, lost or abandonned or relinquished to an institution, one of whom needs you desperately and is destined for you. Go search starting tomorrow, djf. You will know the one I mean when you look into her eyes and your souls connect. {Not a puppy, an adult dog.} She can start the long healing process.

[nopardons]

I agree with you completely! :-)

[loboinok]

Admittedly, I don't know much about Haggard. After all the comments I've read on this forum, I thought I had a good idea. I was wrong. He actually took responsibility, didn't place the blame with everyone but himself and faced up to his problems.

He's a hypocrite, but issued one of the better confessions I have read.

gazette.com

PS, did the gay uber-minister from Colorado Springs "confess" before or after the elections?

Apparently a day or two before the election.

PPS, His gay escort and their meth sessions together?

Yeah, I seen the accusations but didn't see the confession or evidence of it. Not saying I don't believe you though.

Only their leadership's "proud" statements.

I couldn't find anything to support that but did find this article. Seems like it may have had more to do with global warming than the homosexual issue.

[Albion Wilde]

And I would love to hear how you think stopping an individuals reproductive rights would go over in the USA.

I do not believe in any such thing. There certainly are some flying leaps on this thread!

I have studied the subject for a dozen years, and I believe it is a social issue that must be solved in many ways, including education and an end to the bigoted condemnation of religious scruples in this area and the politically correct, deliberate suppression of the substantial evidence of the downside to homosexual behavior in terms of physical and mental health, longevity and parent/child issues. But coercion is not effective. Prohibition showed us the futility of legislating morality.

[Sunsong]

I am so sorry for your losses - and your most recent one I'm sure hurts a lot right now. I will keep you in my prayers that you are comforted and that you can in some small ways allow the comfort in.

It is painful to lose love - perhaps it is the worst pain of all. I hope that you allow yourself to grieve. It actually helps. That may not make sense - but I know it to be true from my own experience.

And I'm sure you know at some level that God loves you more than you will ever be able to understand or let in. It's ok if you don't want the connection right now. I just say it as a reminder.

[metesky]

I remember an America where people actually did mind their own business...

[Albion Wilde]

I used NO "anecdotes"; I posted factual history.....try reading some. I will happily supply you with a book list. :-

The word "anecdotes" in this sense means "case histories" or "true stories"-- even if the anecdotes are true, they are not necessarily representative of the larger trends in a group of people such as the nation of the USA. A valid study has to have a large sample of people, a representative cross-section of society, be conducted scrupulously, and have equally scrupulous data analysis. Even then, the conclusions are tentative until the study is replicated more than once. Knowing some gay people is not a representative study.

[Albion Wilde]

You think children will be exposed to detrimental situations as a result of homosexual adoption, ok, fine, that is your opinion, but I fail to see the similar outrage for kids adopted into a male/female household that is abusive.

Good lord, man, what rock have you been hiding under? There are scads of abuse stories in every news source -- people in Maine get to hear about a case of abuse in Oregon, and vice versa. It's on every talk show. Oprah makes it a particular concern, as do many other talk hosts, from Dr. Phil to Jerry Springer. You just like to argue; doesn't matter if you have anything accurate to say. Try to edit yourself to what you know you know; not just what you wish were true.

[Albion Wilde]

My question is quite relevant and not at all "hysterical" in any of the meanings of that word.

See post 549.

[Albion Wilde]

But that does not change the fact that gays are here to stay and they have kids and they raise them. You can condemn the idea all you want to - but it will not change the reality.

The first step to solving a problem is to identify it. The gay lifestyle is not the core of the problem in our society -- it is a symptom. I'm the one who did the graduate thesis on marriage and society, who has the yards-long bibliography; yet posters here seem to believe that if I think gay parenting is a bad idea for the children involved, I can't possibly have given the matter any thought and am simply a bigot. That is pitiable. I've given the matter a ton of thought, research and effort. I've been an employer of gays and an AIDS caregiver. And although I started out believing much as you do, the actual research convinced me otherwise. That is the meaning of education, is it not?

[AmericaUnited]

Wow! That's all I can say that so many here think gay couples raising children is a big 'yawner', i.e. 'no big deal'. That's very scary. We are really screwed as a country.

[saneright]

You are absolutely correct. Homosexuality is a choice and is clearly abnormal. There is no empirical evidence that exists to support the myth that it is normal.

I truly feel sorry for the child.

Oh and by the way it is our business regardless of what some people say on this thread. When certain school districts are teaching young children that this chosen lifestyle is normal it damn well is our business.

[darth]

You're right; its nobody's business. The MSM is only making a big deal out of Mary's pregnancy in order to weaken the Republican Party. Is this not obvious? The dims are total hypocrites outing gay Republicans and attacking gay/lesbian children of Republicans. Mary, congratulations! I wish you and your child the very best!

[AmericaUnited]

From your home page...

“In dictatorships you need courage to fight evil; in the free world you need courage to see evil.”
—Natan Sharansky

I can't believe how many fools and idiots there are here. Liberals usually have the dysfunctional thinking of using one or two 'good' examples as a justification for a broad based policy or accepted behavior.

[saneright]

"I believe whatever the American psychiatric professional group was called did back when. That position was held by the group until they elected a closet gay honcho who got a board of fellow gay and fellow traveler shrinks to reverse it. That happened no earlier than the 1960s, and, I believe, no later than the '80s."


I read an article several years ago written by a doctor who was a member of the American psychiatric group when homosexuality was changed from being a disorder to being "normal". He claimed that the change was the result of two things. One was that some queers got into positions of authority within the group and exerted influence over the more passive members of the group. The second reason was that everyone felt sorry for the queers because of the abuse they faced in society. The author of the article did not agree with this change and left the group shortly thereafter.

Sorry I cannot remember the doctor's name. I am sure if you surf the web you could probably find information regarding the politicizing of this issue.

The mere fact that so may people in our country accept this nonsense as normal shows how far our culture has declined. What's worse is that they like to call themselves "progressives". A society who accepts two women who strap dildos around themselves and call themselves a loving couple is a society in that is in trouble.