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A Vote for Rudy: Why Giuliani should be president
National Review ^ | 12/18/2006 | Richard Bookhiser

Posted on 12/08/2006 2:36:29 PM PST by Uncledave

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To: Uncledave

The probable nominee for each of both major parties is very likely somebody that nobody is talking about now. As each of these prospective rivals is pushed forward by the mess media and the presstitute corps, almost as quickly a firestorm flashes up around each of them. It is as if there was a terrible haste to tarnish any potential candidate.

Some of it is bogus, and some of it is done to conceal even larger blemishes from being examined. Maybe there is no Ronald Reagan to be had for nomination this time. Some governor, somewhere, is still in grooming, but now is too soon. Anyone whose entire political experience has been as a legislator, may almost certainly be dismissed out of hand, as they bring far too narrow a perspective to be effective executives. Former military officers of high rank, are almost as limited as former legislators, unless they have had experience in running some industrial empire, and can show different dimensions of themselves.

I would nominate myself, but that would tend to be just a little egocentric, and I do not wear that persona well. But I do know for sure, I am WAY smarter than some 95% of those who have already offered up their services to the cause.

But America does not want, or even need, smart people to run it. What we need, is determined people. The next 20 years or so is going to be just one tough old toboggan ride.

Part of it over sand and rocks.


21 posted on 12/08/2006 3:03:47 PM PST by alloysteel (Facts do not cease to exist, just because they are ignored. - Aldous Huxley)
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To: Uncledave

With the MSM picks for the GOP POTUS, there will be plenty of people screaming "If we don't elect a democrat with an R by their name, we will get a democrat with a D by their name.

This sure worked well the last election. /S


22 posted on 12/08/2006 3:04:35 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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To: NapkinUser
If the Pubbies continue to cloud the waters with men like Rudy or McCain and think they're going to run a moderate RINO against Hillary, then prepare for a third term of the krintons. Principled conservatives are willing to hand the nation over to the agressive left rather than follow turncoat pretenders at a slower rate into the maw of hell. I don't endorse this course of action, but it is certain to happen. The national GOP better get it's semi-collectivist head out of it's @ss before we go down the tubes.
23 posted on 12/08/2006 3:06:00 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (Ever learning . . .)
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

Are you saying it's not possible to oppose someone and their political positions on various issues without hating them?

If you are, that's pretty silly.


24 posted on 12/08/2006 3:06:15 PM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: Emmett McCarthy; Uncledave
I sure tire of the Rudy schill posts, seems like two or three a day...

More common than 'Enzyte Bob' on my TV and just as likely to sell me anything I want or need.

25 posted on 12/08/2006 3:06:26 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Uncledave; Dark Wing; Dog Gone
It's Giuliani's to lose and McCain's to win. The best thing about Giuliani is who his enemies were when he was Mayor of New York City, rather than his actions on 9/11 and afterwards. The enemies he had as mayor define where Giuliani really stands on family and social issues.

McCain's biggest problem is that his supporters are best described as "not Republicans", i.e., not RINO's, but people who are not registered as Republicans, i.e., independents and Democrats. His next biggest is the votes and stands he has taken as a Senator in the past five years - IMO those weigh more against McCain than anything Giuliani has said or done with the possible exception of Rudi being for gun control, and on that one I think Rudi will decide that "Paris is worth a mass" as Henry of Navarre, aka Henri IV, did.

26 posted on 12/08/2006 3:11:00 PM PST by Thud
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To: savedbygrace

I guess I'm just tired of the endless Rudy bashing one sees on these threads. It's as if 9-11 never happened. The social conservatives, the more rabid hundred-percenters at any rate, sound like they're in denial over who can win in 2008.


27 posted on 12/08/2006 3:11:33 PM PST by WestVirginiaRebel (Common sense will do to liberalism what the atomic bomb did to Nagasaki-Rush Limbaugh)
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To: scory

I will not vote or support McCain or Rudy for President. I admit that Rudy would represent NY if he were elected Senate. McCain is much to erratic and angry for me to support him in any circumstances.


28 posted on 12/08/2006 3:13:11 PM PST by TWhiteBear
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To: Smokin' Joe

If they want to advertise here, seems like they ought to buy the space. I mean, if I started telling everyone here about my kitchen and bath cabinet and countertop business here in Nashville, I'm sure they'd yank it in a hurry.


29 posted on 12/08/2006 3:14:02 PM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

No denial at all. Rudy can't win. Maybe that sounds too negative, so let me make it more positive: Rudy will lose.


30 posted on 12/08/2006 3:16:18 PM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: Uncledave

He'll never get my vote. If it comes down to him and Hillary--I could care less who wins.


31 posted on 12/08/2006 3:16:23 PM PST by stockstrader ("Where government advances--and it advances relentlessly--freedom is imperiled"-Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: Uncledave

A good lesson in this fine article by Brookhiser.

Rudy is a good strong candidate who can take out Hillary.

We already know how strong he is on the WOT, supporting the Military and fighting Islamo-fascists. He has told us what kind of SCOTUS judges he would pick : in the mold of Scalia and Thomas, like Roberts and Alito.

These are the foremost issues of our time. Waiting around for the perfect candidate with whom you agree on everything means the election of another Clinton, this one far worse than her HINO.


32 posted on 12/08/2006 3:17:31 PM PST by Cincinna (HILLARY & HER HINO " We are going to take things away from you for the Common Good ")
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To: WestVirginiaRebel
Didn't take long for the Rudy haters to show up...

Why did you us the DU word haters? Seems to me they were just saying why they wouldn't vote for him. Don't you think they have a right to their opinion??

33 posted on 12/08/2006 3:17:35 PM PST by org.whodat (Never let the facts get in the way of a good assumption.)
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To: Uncledave

RUDY ON TERRORISM as far back as Munich:

Giuliani had spoken of the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center in his first mayoral inaugural address, in a paean to Gotham spunk (“New Yorkers of the 1990s have the same ingenuity, sensitivity, talent, and courage that our ancestors had in building our great city”). The methods he had used to fight the mob turned out to be essential in cracking the Jersey City terror cell that planned the 1993 bombing, and other attacks. Andy McCarthy, lead prosecutor of Omar Abdel-Rahman, the Blind Sheik, says that the Justice Department used Giuliani’s “RICO paradigm,” not focusing on “foot soldiers” but “peeling back the case” to “big organizations in time and space.” Most important was Giuliani’s moral clarity. Siegel’s wonk coexists with a man of passion. Giuliani “saw this issue early on as very black and white,” says McCarthy. “Part of what people who don’t like Rudy don’t like about him is how headstrong he is.” In 1995 Giuliani ejected Yasser Arafat from a Lincoln Center concert honoring the 50th anniversary of the United Nations. “Maybe we should wake people up to the way this terrorist is being romanticized.” After 9/11 he returned $10 million from a Saudi prince who had suggested that our Palestinian policy had helped cause the attack. In his speeches Giuliani dates the run-up to 9/11 from the 1985 murder of wheelchair-bound Leon Klinghoffer by Palestinian hijackers.


34 posted on 12/08/2006 3:20:22 PM PST by Cincinna (HILLARY & HER HINO " We are going to take things away from you for the Common Good ")
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To: NapkinUser

A Republican Guiliani President would not do a damn thing about abortion or gun control. He's not that stupid.


35 posted on 12/08/2006 3:20:47 PM PST by Hildy ("Death plucks my ear and says - LIVE - I am coming.....")
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To: mariabush

Kiss President Hillary hello and kiss your country and your freedoms as you know it goodbye.


36 posted on 12/08/2006 3:22:15 PM PST by Cincinna (HILLARY & HER HINO " We are going to take things away from you for the Common Good ")
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To: WorkingClassFilth

Are you insane? Have you been asleep...PRINCIPLED CONSERVATIVES COULD NOT EVEN WIN RE-ELECTION THIS TIME AROUND. Wake up my friends, it's a new day and if you care about your Country, you'll realize that before it's too late. And it's not too late if you don't keep waiting for someone who agrees 100% with everything you agree with. IT AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN.


37 posted on 12/08/2006 3:23:39 PM PST by Hildy ("Death plucks my ear and says - LIVE - I am coming.....")
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To: Hildy
You're right. 100% agreement is NOT going to happen. No question about it.

I can overlook one, or maybe even TWO major issues,,,,

but NOT FIVE (abortion, guns, gay, amnesty and big government) major issues.

No thanks. If the the election is between Rudy and Hillary--I could care less.

38 posted on 12/08/2006 3:26:34 PM PST by stockstrader ("Where government advances--and it advances relentlessly--freedom is imperiled"-Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: Hildy
Wake up my friends, it's a new day...

If that's the case, then I should keep stocking up on ammo because it's already too late.

39 posted on 12/08/2006 3:31:51 PM PST by Doohickey (I am not unappeasable. YOU are just too easily appeased.)
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To: areafiftyone

Lookee here..it's Fridat night happy hour..


40 posted on 12/08/2006 3:32:45 PM PST by ken5050
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