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To: billbears
Don't see it as anymore ridiculous than i

Mathematics is supposed to be a foundation to model the real world. Basically i represents a situation where the square of a quantity results in a sink as opposed to a source. For example, the volume of water that goes down the drain that is a square pipe is (i times w (width of one side of the square pipe)) squared.

In 2 d space, whenever you see i, that means it is a sink, not a source and this is important in chaos theory too. As far as we know, nullity does not exist. Zero does not exist. There is no situation where all quantum numbers are zero. The essense of quantum mechanics is that there is a graininess to the universe or there is in fact an indivisible quantity. Even empty space has an indivisible quantity or is discontinuous.

Zero is a decent approximation to things that are "normal" to humans. But division by zero makes no sense to a "normal" situation and in the abnormal (incredibly small), zero does not seem to exist.

Nullity has little or no use in mathematical modeling while i has a great many uses.

151 posted on 12/08/2006 1:38:51 PM PST by staytrue
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To: staytrue

As far as we know, all numbers are imaginary. some just hurt your brain more than others.


154 posted on 12/08/2006 1:40:20 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: staytrue
Mathematics is supposed to be a foundation to model the real world.

It is? Not when I was a math major. Physics is a foundation to model the real world. Pure math is pure math. Does math help to understand physics? Of course. But I've never heard that mathematics is supposed to be a foundation to model the real world. It helps. And sometimes, pure math problems were able to be applied to the real world such as inthe case of fluid dynamics when physicists were trying to quantify a fluid dynamics problem and discovered that mathmaticians had already solved it as a set of pure math equations.

The mathematicians I have known aren't looking to model the real world with their math. They are trying to make intellectual discoveries and leaps in math. And if they eventually lead to something that models the real world, great. But it's not their raison d'etre.

174 posted on 12/08/2006 1:53:50 PM PST by Stone Mountain
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