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To: pieceofthepuzzle
The economic issues are not the crucial ones, in my view.

Though I agree wholeheartedly about your points on assimilation. I disagree on the economic issue.

Illeagals comprise 27% of prison population.
Illeagals comprise 27% of prison population

If it costs $50,000 per inmate, and the average illeagal paid 25% of their income in taxes, it would take a combined income of $200,000 just to offset prisoner costs. If the average illeagal made $20,000 and paid 25% of his/her income in taxes it would take 10 working illeagals to pay for every imprisoned illeagal.

Next issue schooling. The government spends almost $11,000 a year per student on education. http://www.reformk12.com/archives/000174.nclk If a family of 4 illeagals have 2 students, thats a cost of $22,000. If we use 25% as the tax figure, mom and dad together would have to make $88,000 a year just to pay their share of the tax burden that their kids are using.

According to this article from 2002 U.S. Prison Population Tops 2 Million, if we use the above stated 27% of prisoners are illeagals, that means there are approximately 540,000 illeagals who are prisoners. Its claimed that there are 12 million illeagals in this country, if we use the general stats from the education link I provided, approximately 1/4 of all illeagals should be under 18, leaving approximately 9 million adult illeagals. Of which approximately 540,000 are in prison. Thats 16:1 non-prisoner to prisoner ratio. If $50,000 per prisoner is accurate, then each adult illeagal would have to pay $312 in taxes for prisoners. Or combined it equals $27 billion dollars.

Add that to education expenses of about 3 million illeagals as students at lets say $10,000 per student, that equals approximately $30 billion dollars.

$27 billion for prisoners and $30 billion for education = $57 billion. Lets divide that by approximately 9 million adult illeagals = $6,333 that each adult illeagal should be paying in taxes just to keep up with the burden they bring to us in prisons and education.

69 posted on 12/08/2006 9:42:29 AM PST by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: mountn man

fyi, non citizen are 27 percent of the federal prison but only about 6.4 percent of all prisoners if you include state and local. AND FURTHERMORE, NON CITIZENS ARE LESS LIKELY TO BE IN JAIL THAN CITIZENS.

here is a nice post from a different thread
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Ok, here's some real data. It's from the DOJ BJS that I mentioned earlier. Here's the URL for the whole report on prisoners in state and federal custody.
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/pjim05.pdf

Basic data, at table 6 on page 5. 6.4% of all prisoners are non-citizens. I believe the basic estimates for all non-citizens in the population is about 10%, but I'll check.

One surprise in figures -- non-citizens not rising very fast. Was about 88,800 in 1999 and 91,000 in 2005.

From other sources, the percentage of all non-citizens among federal prisoners is much higher (c. 28%), but the vast majority of all prisoners are in State and local custody (about 90%), not federal. Since immigration violations are federal, and especially crimes by illegal entrants are also federal crimes, the higher proportion in federal custody is not surprising.

So, based on this data, and I'd welcome others if any one has data, it looks like total proportion of non-citizens in prison is probably less than the proportion of all US citizens in prison.


37 posted on 12/03/2006 5:41:14 PM EST by BohDaThone


85 posted on 12/08/2006 10:08:32 AM PST by staytrue
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