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To: Graybeard58

This issue is so frustrating.

It does not matter how empirically wrong the anti-illegal immigration crowd is, the emotion trumps.

The US has had waves of much higher immigration and it has never destroyed the country. Our current wave has only indicated economic boom not bust.

I do support English primacy laws and assimilation but I do not believe illegal immigration is adverse as an economic impact.

They do pay sales tax and many other taxes relating to property. To pretend otherwise is absurd.

This nation has prospered immensely from illegal immigration.


103 posted on 12/08/2006 11:51:10 AM PST by lonestar67 (Its time to withdraw from the War on Bush-- your side is hopelessly lost in a quagmire.)
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To: lonestar67
This nation has prospered immensely from illegal immigration.

It is a cheap one time fix. A citizen worker must support himself, grandma and grandpa and the kids. An immigrant, usually leaves grandma and grandpa at the home country and sometimes the wife and kids are there too.

But at some point, you can't keep importing immigrants forever.

The better way to go is to reduce stupid consumption at all levels and then you can support the grandparents and the kids without immigration. Cut the idiot govt. regulation and spending. Cut your own idiot spending. Reduce debt. In otherwords, get back to the basics and we can do very well without immigration as was the case in the 60's and 70's.

Still, the temporary H1B is a fabulous program as a healthy adult worker comes to the US for a few years, while gramps and the wife and kids stay in the home country.

106 posted on 12/08/2006 12:35:17 PM PST by staytrue
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To: lonestar67
This nation has prospered immensely from illegal immigration.

That's a blatant lie.

112 posted on 12/08/2006 4:00:13 PM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: lonestar67
How come Texas is supposedly prospering by this invasion of foreigners and California is dying?

Cost of Illegals to California $10.5 Billion

113 posted on 12/08/2006 4:02:38 PM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: lonestar67

"It does not matter how empirically wrong the anti-illegal immigration crowd is, the emotion trumps."

Surely you have links for your emotional rant?????????

"The US has had waves of much higher immigration and it has never destroyed the country. Our current wave has only indicated economic boom not bust."

http://www.themonitor.com

Now type in "hospitals" in the search engine. You will learn a lot on this page. Just facts for stupido gringos. The below article will show you how close we are to socialized medicine.

http://www.themonitor.com/SiteProcessor.cfm?Template=/GlobalTemplates/Details.cfm&StoryID=867&Section=Local

Now, I would like to see some facts from you and not emotional rants. By the way, they are building more hospitals in the valley, as they know the stupido gringos from the north will fund them.




119 posted on 12/09/2006 7:52:47 AM PST by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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