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1 posted on 12/07/2006 9:15:31 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

My first thought is that if accurate, the Iraq situation has been very poorly handled by the people we trusted and supported because we were confident that they knew what they were doing.


2 posted on 12/07/2006 9:45:52 PM PST by raftguide
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To: neverdem

"Only the President can repair this shrieking void in our capabilities."

All I've read is a report on how bad things are now and that what we did has not worked. OK, but there is no real strategic advice. How should the President repair the "shrieking void in our capabilities"? Mostly platitudes and little real help.


3 posted on 12/07/2006 9:55:41 PM PST by Prokopton
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I often wonder if the terrorist sponsoring countries have not been properly humiliated ala Germany and Japan. If we had made it our purpose in life to so utterly destroy any country providing support to terrorists after 9-11 perhaps we would be further along now. I don't know but I sometimes wish we had gotten on more of a war-footing right after 9-11 instead of apparently trying to be too surgical in our fighting. Oh well, what do I know anyways. I know Patton and others felt the best way to save lives in the long run was to go all out as ruthlessly and quickly as you could.
4 posted on 12/07/2006 10:04:24 PM PST by GoDuke
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To: neverdem

To most people a compromise is an agreement. Two or more parties sit down and they each give up something for a greater agreement. Thus they end up with a part of what they want but not all of it. The misery/goodness is spread equally.

Enter the Baker Report. It's been out two days and the left is celebrating. I haven't seen them this happy since the election of Bill Clinton and the Democrat Congress. Katie Couric was almost wetting her panties the other night in excitement. Lefty bloggers are going crazy with happiness.

Thus I'm wondering what they gave up in the Baker Report. It was a 'compromise' right? So what did the left give up? We all know that if they had given up something that's all we'd be hearing about in the unbiased MSM is how 'unreasonable' it was.

A better question is what did we get out of it? I would expect that 39 of the 79 articles in the report would be things that I (as a conservative) agree with. So how come I have yet to see anything I like? Why are conservative pundits oddly silent?

Cause we haven't gotten crap. We didn't get anything out of this "compromise" accept ignored. The people who were supposed to represent our side gave up our principles and sold us out. This was more of an embarrassing surrender than a compromise. If both sides are supposed to get something, why aren't I happy?

Get ready for tons of gleeful talk of 'compromise' from the left. They'll tell us that now that we all agree, we go forward from here. The fact that this was a RECOMMENDATION will quickly be forgotten. The fact that we *don't* agree will be ignored. It will become the only way to handle the war in Iraq from here on in (since it mandates the liberal way of doing things.)

Thus from this point in, conservatives will be viewed as the enemy by the political powers that be. Smug liberal political elitists will be quick to remind us that "now that we all agree" the only discussion left is how to implement their ideas.

This stupid Commission was brought to us by a Republican Congress who was supposed to be fighting for our values. The only upshot is that these idiots won't be there to betray us next year.


5 posted on 12/07/2006 10:16:23 PM PST by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
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To: neverdem

bttt


6 posted on 12/07/2006 11:03:42 PM PST by Christian4Bush (Don't blame me - I didn't vote for these DEM b**tards. (redacted to satiate religioncop TXBlair))
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To: neverdem
The president,IMO, will ignore the ISG report and with his new defense secretary ,forge a new path forward in Iraq. President Bush is the CIC of our forces in Iraq and around the world.

What will his course for the war be? More forceful? Only he knows and it will be his decision. I do not support him on many issues but I will always support him as Commander in Chief. My prayers are offered up for you Mr. President.

8 posted on 12/07/2006 11:36:35 PM PST by afnamvet (It is what it is.)
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To: neverdem
Hard to believe Baker mentioned this in the report:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1750250/posts

And their answer, remove half of the US troops? Sorry, I have a hard time "getting" the report or its purpose, unless it is an intentional sellout of our troops. Our politicians are playing circle jerk while our young men and women are in harm's way.
9 posted on 12/08/2006 6:25:07 AM PST by corlorde (New Hampshire)
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