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Spy Death by Nuclear Poisoning Tied to American Hiroshima
canada free press ^ | December 6, 2006 | By Paul L. Williams Ph.D.

Posted on 12/07/2006 10:56:48 AM PST by BigFinn

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To: flintsilver7
I hereby propose a full and complete ban on posting anything by Paul Williams

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21 posted on 12/07/2006 12:00:02 PM PST by Ignatz ("I think we should tax all foreigners living abroad.")
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To: DBrow
"This is technobabble; the reload requirement is not necessarily six months based on half-life. What if you put in four times the minimum amount?"

Ahh - Think heat generation and space considerations for the trigger charge.
22 posted on 12/07/2006 12:02:47 PM PST by cannonball
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To: Parmenio; flintsilver7

"I agree with you. And is it just me or have other people noticed it? -- that since the election, there seems to be a resurgence of black helicopter chatter on Free Republic and other conservative outlets and forums."

No kidding.


23 posted on 12/07/2006 12:24:17 PM PST by L98Fiero (The media is a self-licking ice-cream cone)
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To: BigFinn; Cindy

Ping


24 posted on 12/07/2006 12:24:35 PM PST by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: DBrow

If they had 60, they'd at least have to detonate one as a demonstration of their power. At least that's what they would do if the Sand Spider was in charge. Of course, Crimson Jihad had real weapons (I consider the warheads in True Lies more real than suitcase nukes). There is a difference there.


25 posted on 12/07/2006 12:34:45 PM PST by flintsilver7
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To: BigFinn

Of course, if he broke a packet of Polonium and got enough on him so that he ingested 100x the lethal dose....then that table and that room in the sushi bar should have been lethally hot as well, instead of just measurably hot.


26 posted on 12/07/2006 12:37:32 PM PST by Dreagon
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To: DBrow

http://www.guardian.co.uk/russia/article/0,,1956792,00.html

Explainer: Polonium 210
Ian Sample
Saturday November 25, 2006


Because polonium emits only alpha particles, it can be safely carried in glass vials and will not set off radiation detectors at airports. Once ingested, it is hard to detect, because all the radiation remains in the body. A lethal dose could be as little as a few milligrams, which could be administered as a powder or dissolved in liquid.

and:

Chris Lloyd, a radiation protection adviser at the Environment Agency said it was highly unlikely the polonium came from the UK.

"I suspect it was secreted in from the east," he said. "It is not available in these areas in a form conducive to easy poisoning. It is electroplated on to a substrate in relatively low activities that would not cause a quick fatality even if ingested." A person poisoned with polonium might not show symptoms for weeks.

Health Protection Agency officials are using computer simulations to work out how much polonium may have been in Mr Litvinenko's body. If they can collect any, they may be able to detect impurities that would link the substance like a fingerprint to its source.

Professor Dudley Goodhead at the Medical Research Council radiation and genome stability unit, said: "There are very small amounts of polonium 210 in the natural environment from decay of uranium in the earth and in fact everyone has a small amount of polonium 210 in their body. But to poison someone, much larger amounts are required and this would have to be man-made, perhaps from a particle accelerator or a nuclear reactor."


27 posted on 12/07/2006 12:48:03 PM PST by khnyny (God Bless the Republic for which it stands)
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To: BigFinn

Crank alert - the author is certifiable.


28 posted on 12/07/2006 12:48:45 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: BigFinn

There is no confirmation of any purchase of suitcase nukes.
Thus, this article is discredited.

However, it is an interesting speculation that he poisoned himself working on radiological bombs.

And, yes, the fact of conversion to Islam means he was a lunatic capable of anything.


29 posted on 12/07/2006 12:50:43 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: flintsilver7
Richard Miniter is one of the best reporters around.

And what happened to that guy goes beyond mere poisoning - he was obliterated. Somebody wanted to send a message.

30 posted on 12/07/2006 12:54:26 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: DBrow

I agree, if Al Quaeda had these types of weapons, they'd use them immediately. Really, who knows why this guy was poisoned and by whom. More info re Polonium 210:

Polonium 210, the radioactive substance discovered in Alexander Litvinenko's body, occurs at very low levels naturally, but is manufactured for use by industrial plants to prevent the build up of static electricity.
It is an effective and convenient poison. It emits pure alpha particles, which outside the body can be stopped by a sheet of tissue paper. But if ingested, it causes widespread damage as it passes into organs. The radiation releases energy that creates reactive particles called free radicals. These in turn form toxic compounds that are deadly to surrounding cells.

Because polonium emits only alpha particles, it can be safely carried in glass vials and will not set off radiation detectors at airports. Once ingested, it is hard to detect, because all the radiation remains in the body. A lethal dose could be as little as a few milligrams, which could be administered as a powder or dissolved in liquid.


31 posted on 12/07/2006 12:57:26 PM PST by khnyny (God Bless the Republic for which it stands)
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To: flintsilver7

http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110007478

Good read!


32 posted on 12/07/2006 1:04:04 PM PST by JZelle
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To: khnyny

Good points. I've always thought that if the islamonutballs have suitcase nukes those things probably take quite a bit of maintenance to keep in working order and that almost makes them hard to imagine as a viable weapon for the terroristas.

I hope.


33 posted on 12/07/2006 1:18:18 PM PST by West Texas Chuck (US out of the UN - UN out of the US)
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To: West Texas Chuck

Yep, the maintenance makes them ineffective, unless, of course, the terrorists receive some sort of "assistance".


34 posted on 12/07/2006 1:37:59 PM PST by khnyny (God Bless the Republic for which it stands)
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To: JZelle

That's from his book, which is also a great read.

His title is interesting because things like this - fearmongering hyperbole of the worst kind - detracts from the actual threat. When fraudulent garbage like this is exposed people might think "hey, what else isn't true?"

There is a very real threat, but it sure as hell isn't from suitcase nukes.

I don't think I would own any guns if I had to clean them every six weeks despite never shooting them.


35 posted on 12/07/2006 1:44:22 PM PST by flintsilver7
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To: West Texas Chuck
Islamonuts have vowed to destroy America, Israel and the West. Take them very seriously. The point of this entire discussion is that Polonium got through to the UK undetected, didn't it. The guy had links to Islam. Forget the suitcase nukes for the moment... If Putin wanted to get rid of the guy he could do it very efficiently with a spy and a silencer. Why go to all this trouble of Polonium? The PO was there for another reason. Now the question is... how much of that stuff is still out there undetected? And more importantly, who has a hold of it and what do they intend to do with it?
36 posted on 12/07/2006 1:47:10 PM PST by BigFinn (Isa 32:8 But the liberal deviseth liberal things; and by liberal things shall he stand.)
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To: BigFinn

Polonium has two extremely important characteristics in this case:

1) It has legitimate uses, and

2) It is extremely rare.

There are lots of high-energy alpha emitters that are extremely toxic. They don't have much use as terror weapons.

So, to answer your question on "how much of that stuff is still out there undetected" I can pretty safely say not much.


37 posted on 12/07/2006 1:54:01 PM PST by flintsilver7
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To: BigFinn
Another question begs to be asked. Why did they use it on just one person? Why not instill terror on a grand scale, maybe all over the UK? It would seem that they gave themselves away prematurely.
38 posted on 12/07/2006 2:00:24 PM PST by Empireoftheatom48 (God bless our troops!! Our President and those who fight against the awful commie, liberal left!!)
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To: BigFinn

Classic KGB FUD, IMHO. "We probably murdered the guy but we might not have. You figure it out." Spectacularly convenient accidents do happen, of course, but it isn't the way to bet.


39 posted on 12/07/2006 2:05:12 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: flintsilver7
It would be also be very convenient to ignore Occam's Razor on this - if the guy said he was poisoned and he turns out to have been poisoned, should we:

A) Believe he was poisoned, or

B) Believe he is working with a vast shadow conspiracy of Islamic terrorists and was accidentally poisoned during his routine maintenance of "suitcase nukes."

Well, we know this much: he was poisoned.

We also know that (a) it was enough of a very expensive poison to kill him a gazillion times over; (b) he left large amounts of radioactive byproducts all over the damn place in a fashion apparently inconsistent with having actually ingested the poison, thus leaving the how of the poisoning an open question; (c) he had converted to Islam (funeral rites were held at a London mosque, minus his body, which was too damn radioactive), raising still further questions; (d) he was a close personal buddy of an exiled Chechen leader who has been tied to nuclear smuggling by non-Russian sources; and (e) his patron was a Russian robber baron with very close ties to Chechen rebels, Ukranian weapons smugglers, and other sterling citizens.

It's a pity Robert Ludlum is dead; he could have written a 900-page masterpiece with about one plot twist per page from this...

40 posted on 12/07/2006 2:14:54 PM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (Dyslexics of the world, UNTIE!)
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