[HarleyD]

Winning what??? Winning the war on "terrorism"? How long have we been in Afghanistan?

For those who can remember, we were told we were "winning" in Vietnam right up to the day we got in the helicopters and got the heck out of there.

[Tenniel]

"... we were told we were "winning" in Vietnam right up to the day we got in the helicopters..."

We were winning. We won every military engagement we entered, including the Tet offensive. It was Walter Cronkite and the rest of the media, aided and abetted by Hanoi Jane and Purple Hearts Kerry, who told us we were losing and made us believe it.