'This is unfair' say Iraqis on US panel threat

AFP via Breitbart ^ | 12/6/06

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A call for President George W. Bush to reduce US support to Iraq if Baghdad fails to improve security drew a sour response from Iraqi politicians, who said Washington had an obligation to back their government. "The US calls itself an occupying force in Iraq and, according to the Geneva Conventions, if you are an occupier then you are responsible for the country," said parliamentarian Mahmud Othman, a Kurd.

"They have no right to to do this. This is unfair."

Bassim Ridha, a top advisor to Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, said the White House has to support Baghdad "all the way".

"If they do not support the government then it will look as if they do not do what they preach," Ridha said. "We need their support to go forward."

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Well, he is right. How dare the surrender group recommend that we abandon the Iraq?

The only way to win at war is to drive from your enemy his will to fight. That will, the will of our enemy to fight is rooted in the enemy's hope of victory. If our most "distinguished" bipartisan leaders suggest that we cannot win, the enemy's gains hope, and the enemy's will to fight.

These people have put the sacrifice of American heroes and our nation's security at greater risk. Awful. Just awful.

[traditional1]

[goldstategop]

We'll abandon our friends and turn Iraq over to Al Qaeda. No wonder Iraqis are feeling betrayed.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

[Dog Gone]

It's going to be WAY too easy to put too much significance on this report.

If it puts pressure on the Iraqi factions to reconcile, then that's great. But I don't think it's going to change what we're actually doing there at all.

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D'oh, I'm so mad I can't type:

"surrender group recommend that we abandon the Iraq[is]"

"distinguished" bipartisan leaders suggest that we cannot win, the enemy's gains hope, and the enemy's will to fight [increases]"

[Thermalseeker]

No wonder Iraqis are feeling betrayed.

It's not the first time......

[eureka!]

"If it puts pressure on the Iraqi factions to reconcile, then that's great. But I don't think it's going to change what we're actually doing there at all."

Agreed. I just hope that the word gets out to the families of those heroes that are deployed. I'm giving up on the sheeple...

[COBOL2Java]

'This is unfair' say Iraqis on US panel threat

Reminds me of the arguments I used to have with my daughter when she was a teenager...

[MNJohnnie]

And they are right. This is an utterly stupid attempt for the DC Old Boy's Club to claim credit for "fixing" a war in Iraq that is in the last phases. They merely cannot stand to see Bush be right and they be all wrong about Iraq.

Thanks Sen John McCain and the rest of the gutless twits who use to run the US Senate who forced the creation of this Iraq Surrender Group as their pound of political flesh for letting the 2005 Iraq Appropriation thur the US Senate.

[rocksblues]

Bassim Ridha, a top advisor to Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, said the White House has to support Baghdad "all the way".

The Democrats state that now that they have regained power they will restore respect for America's status in the World.

What they will really do is back down and allow Islamic extremists to ramp up and attack us and everyone else again.

[MNJohnnie]

Sorry but snotty punk comments are really not at all helpful. Do you have any serious adult commentary to post on this issue?

[COBOL2Java]

Snotty punk? The Iraqis bitched about us "occupying" their country, despite the countless selfless acts of our brave men and women in uniform (as well as the civilians), and when they (FINALLY) smell the faint odors of "cut and run" what's the first thing they do? Yell "It's not fair!!!"

Sounds like a teenager to me!

Why don't YOU try to engage in adult conversation without resorting to insults and put-downs?

[nothingnew]

Sorry but snotty punk comments are really not at all helpful. Do you have any serious adult commentary to post on this issue?

Uncalled for MNJ.

FMCDH(BITS)

[mylife]

Not one person on the baker panel ever served in the military.
None hold office.
Only a handful have been to Iraq and only one has been outside the green zone.

Real distinguished

[bpjam]

That will teach the Kurds to trust anybody named Bush. Bush 41 bailed out on them when they were prepared to rise up against Saddam in 1991 and Bush 43 is going to abandon them and hand Israel over to the terrorists so James Baker will be able to make another billion at the Carlyle Group.

I'm incredibly embarrassed to have voted for George W Bush. That, or I must be completely delusional in thinking that winning is better than losing in Iraq, that negotiating with Syria and Iran is the same as appeasement and that walking away from Israel while Iran gets to have nukes basically fulfills Hitlers sickest fantasy. But what else would I or Bush expect from the commission which he picked out himself?

[bpjam]

The only way to win at war is to drive from your enemy his will to fight.

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I think the media just did that to the American people. And the vultures have now arrived to pick over the bones of our dignity.

[finnman69]

I dont think its too late to have an accident and have a F-18 drop a load of bombs on al-Sadr. That bastard is responsible for at least 25% of the problems in Iraq.

[Laverne]

I do not believe that Bush picked this committee; it was mandated by congress. Bush today said he will read and listen and he concurs with some, but not all of the recommendations. And that is all these are; this group is not the foreign policy be all and end all like the media would like you to believe. The President is still to receive two additional reports: one from the Military (General Pace) and one from State or the NSC. The President will pick and chose recommendations from all of these....and you will see, his policy will not change. His tactics will, but the policy will not. Indeed, the commission said today they embraced the goals of President Bush. This report will be balanced with military and NSC decisions. President Bush will not abandon the mission, he/we will suceed. Patience is a virtue that not many in this world have, but President Bush has it, along with principle and determination.

[Truth29]

This will become self-fulfilling. The Iraqis will be afraid to stick their necks out because we might leave them too soon and they will be aligning themselves with whatever faction/militia that they think can protect them. Some of them like the Iraqi Sargent interview article on another thread will be planning to flee Iraq when we leave. We may have a new round of refugees to settle in the US like the South Vietnamese after the "peace" agreement.

[elhombrelibre]

Let's be clear here. There are many voices in Iraq. Some of them are allied with us. Some of them voted now three times risking their lives for a constitution and a democracy. They are fighting a vicious rebellion by a small but unimaginably cruel group of terrorists. And they're hoping we can help them form the type of government we promised. Like any country, there are some differences of opinion. But most Iraqis want us to help them finish the job and to finish it the way Bush describes victory. Thanks to the media, we only hear of those who want us out now. They're about 15% of the population. That inspires the Democrats and MSM, who have been in a symbiotic relationship with the terrorists for over two years for partisan reasons.