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To: Tao Yin
Weird how the apostles never mention such complications for salvation.

The Apostles were the foundation of the Church (a living organism), they were not merely the source of a set of dead doctrines. Dogma is clarified and made explicit over time by the Church. Did first century Catholics have to accept formally the doctrine of the Trinity in order to be saved? No. That doctrine was not made formally explicit until the First Ecumenical Council, 300 years after Christ ascended. And likewise with the doctrine of the Immaculate Conception of Mary. It was not made formally explicit until 1800 years after Christ ascended.

-A8

294 posted on 12/08/2006 7:41:11 AM PST by adiaireton8 ("There is no greater evil one can suffer than to hate reasonable discourse." - Plato, Phaedo 89d)
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To: adiaireton8
The Apostles were the foundation of the Church (a living organism), they were not merely the source of a set of dead doctrines.

Wow! Are you saying that without the RCC to add to the theology of the apostles that the faith is dead?

I know you believe that the RCC isn't adding to the faith, but seriously... How long is the list of things that can't be denied so that salvation is guaranteed?

I'm curious how much longer it's going to take to clarify and make explicit the requirements and stipulations of salvation.

I guess that's the difference. I believe that everything required of salvation can be found in the Bible. I also believe that the Bible isn't a dead document without the RCC.

Weird, but this reminds me of the debate over the constitution's interpretation and intent.

299 posted on 12/08/2006 8:52:30 AM PST by Tao Yin
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