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To: Wuli

>>You can call that "freedom", but at least the protestors, unlike you, know it is as false as the sham elections.<<

You mean like the sham election we had for the governor of my state (washington).

And let's talk about freedom. I wonder if the Iranian government regulates what kind of toilets they can buy, or forces them to wear helmets or seatbelts. Or doesn't allow them to smoke in public places, etc.

Don't get me wrong. I'm only playing devils advocate. I'm just trying to point out that we are not as free as some think, and their freedoms are not as limited as some think. The fact that they are even allowed to march is clear evidence of that.


49 posted on 12/06/2006 3:37:42 PM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Naziism was in 1937.)
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To: RobRoy

I'd much rather have my toilet regualted than my LIFE regulated- http://sacredscoop.com


50 posted on 12/06/2006 3:42:03 PM PST by CottShop
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To: RobRoy

"their freedoms are not as limited as some think. The fact that they are even allowed to march is clear evidence of that."

It is against the law to hold a public gathering in Iran without prior permission. Five people standing on a street corner can be an invitation for arrest on charges of conspiring against the gov't.
Any person joining a protest/demonstration takes the chance of being beaten, arrested. etc.
Demonstrations such as the one held today are expected by the regime and they put up with them to a point. Ahmadinejad and Khatami recently visited the U.S. and tried to convince everyone that they run a free country. Very bad press to be seen beating up all the protesters in an annual event.
However, the regime has been known to use helicopter gunships on its citizens in smaller out-of-the-way cities in order to control the crowds.

I've read that the ratio of protesters to cops and gov't vigilante thugs for this event were about 2 to 1. In other words, 1 thug for every 2 protesters. That's pretty heavy-handed tight security.

P.S. Please be advised that the gov't takes photos of people participating in these events and will arrest people days later with no publicity about it. Some of these people may remain in prison for years, or end up dead.

Now, would you like to hear what can happen to children who are caught attending a coed birthday party?

So much for Iranian freedoms.


55 posted on 12/06/2006 5:20:39 PM PST by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business] (...but his head is so tiny...))
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To: RobRoy

"The fact that they are even allowed to march is clear evidence of that."

The demos demonstrate nothing about freedom. They demonstrate that the Mullahs believe they are so secure in their dictatorship that the demos are meaningless.


57 posted on 12/06/2006 6:36:57 PM PST by Wuli
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