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To: piytar
re: Condi 2008 assclowns

Just from a crassly political point of view--exactly what reward in this political life can any Repub pol expect for supporting Israel? Be crass, now, and coldblooded for a moment.

Being pro-Israel doesn't get a Repub very far--and look at Soros/Lamont and the Lieberman experience with the Democrats. I don't see many Israel allies in the landscape anywhere. From a coldly political point of view, what politicias should stick his neck out for Israel? How has this come to be?

There are several new Democrat Jews in the 2007 House. Do you think they will be pro-Israel? Should Israel take their support for granted? I don't, but I'm waiting to see.

The left has done a brilliant triangulation with the conservative evangelical Christians by exposing the embarrassment that the bluebloods feel at their presence at the political table. (Kuo may be a self-serving twerp, but his criticisms have resonance.) There were many Republicans who disdained the evangelicals, and this couldn't go on forever without alienating a significant constituency. Now there's that purpose-driven guy who's being courted by some very unembarrassed Democrats. That's enough to chip a significant support away from Israel.

If Condi were pro-Israel there wouldn't be any political reward for being so. That's just the truth.

We have seen our last pro-Israel administration.

188 posted on 12/06/2006 5:29:31 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Mamzelle
Being pro-Israel doesn't get a Repub very far

Not in this life. I value my soul over the short time I'll be on this earth.

189 posted on 12/06/2006 5:37:24 PM PST by processing please hold
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To: Mamzelle
Israel is not committing terrorist attacks on the US. Middle Eastern Islamists are. The 'realist' are actually being pragmatic. They are assuming that the only reason the US is having trouble against Islam is because of our support for Israel. This of course ignores the attacks on India, Somalia, Spain, Russia, etc.. How is sacrificing Israel going to save Africa, Russia, France, Somalia, etc. ? What the 'realists' fail to realize is why Islam hates Israel and why Islam condones violence. The reason they hate us is because we are not Islam. The reason they condone violence is because they like it. Very simple and very nonnegotiable.
201 posted on 12/06/2006 6:17:11 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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